Federov to Automatic Rifle

Did Federov saw combat in Stalingrad, Rzhev or Berlin? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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Even Moscow is questionable, we do see a few pictures with Fedorovs that may have been taken in 1941, but overall evidence is weak.

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No, or not that I know of, but some Fedorovs got used I read somewhere at the beginning of WW2

Soviets doesn’t need another buff they already have the best AR, SMG and MG they don’t need to have the best auto rifle.
Once you change it to a rifleman you would be seeing nothing but ppl spamming 9x Fedorov squads because they are a pretty much Hei Automatic and are vastly superior to AVT-40/AVS-36.
Fedorov could get a small buff since it’s pretty inaccurate due bad recoil and can’t compete vs AS-44/STG44.

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Why is this an issue tho? buffing Fedorov wouldn’t break balance - since there are still better or then equal alternatives available.

Soviets having some unfair advantages has nothing to do with Fedorov specifically.

well i am against any buff to soviets till they remove those unfair advantages. otherwise i dont mind fedorov getting damage buff and being moved to SF riles or AVT getting 20 round magazine.

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It’s issue because you would be buffing them indirectly by giving them powerful automatic rifle on rifleman that you could spam for days

While Fedorov is the worst automatic rifle on assaulter it would be 2nd best auto rifle right after Hei Automatic

It’s about consistency. The Federov is an automatic rifle therefore it should go where automatic rifles go.

then give the fg42 a bayonet and all is done :parrot:

Because federov was at least “deployed” during the winter war supposedly to rear units.

I said “less out of place” (more plausable)…not saying federov has a place.

As44 is just assssssss, along with most of the soviet BR 5 tech tree

Hei one hit kill vs vitality (completely unacceptable and most OP gun in the game,
Vs
Fedorov only one hit kill vs noobs.

I can see both guns being set as rifles for regular troopers, but type hei should get a damage nerf - or maybe Fedorov could together with MKB be moved to BR4 with a bit of an accuracy nerf for both guns.

We need to be getting these “automatic rifles” away from the riflemen class

I’ve been thinking maybe automatic rifles should be moved to the Assault class. However I don’t think that overhaul would be for a long time

But if for now autorifles remain with RIflemen then autorifles should go where ever they must go

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No, just leave BR5 alone. If you don’t like full auto gameplay, just go play literally any other BR.

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Rather not, I dont mind at all having best of the best bestestest equipment in BR5 for all my soldiers to stomp bots.

Rather, lock the BR5.

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Its nothing to do with that.

Its a class issue. When one class overides most of the others at their own niches its bad design

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They should have kept the Guardsman class for auto rifles, basically an assaulter squad but the assaulters are replaced with guardsmen who only use SF rifles. Only the soviets have “guardsmen” with the Fedorov being locked to assaulters.

As it is now automatic rifles basically make every other gun obsolete, such guns should not be given to standard infantry, instead the best they should get is semi auto rifles.

SA rifles also deserve a buff in accuracy and RoF, the artificial fire rate limit that was placed on them still makes me sour.

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Huh? If SF are better than AR (which I really don’t think it’s the case, maybe with exception to Type Hei auto), then DF should increase their recoil.

Rather than completely ruin whole unique full auto gameplay of top BR.

And if SF rifles should be taken away from riflemen, in that case they should be replaced by ARs.

It would redefine the entire core of the game too. Obviously the game does not have to be 101% historically accurate, but every squad should feel unique in its capabilities and role. Now you can pretty much turn every single squad into “assaulters”

Riflemen are supposed to be the core infantrymen, Assault is supposed to be the automatic skirmisher. Riflemen have the highest body count so they are best for attacking/ defending objectives, Assault are smaller squads but have high firepower. Riflemen represent the standard infantry

It’s like Medics. I actually run around healing the team, sure many would say that’s futile, but I’m here to get into the role I’m supposed to play. I also bipod with MGs to provide fire support

That would be my angle. Riflemen are at every other BR, the large, hard hitting bolt action/semi auto class. (Until BR 5 where they intrude on or supersede other classes)

IMO If anything Br 5 riflemen weapons should be higher capacity harder hitting semi autos (basically the BR IV BP semi autos with no RPM nerf, better handling and dmg)

This doesnt ruin full auto play, if thats all you want to do you just do the same as any other BR…only put assaulters, medics, paratroopers, guerillas and MG gunner squads in your deck. (Because full autos are in their identity)

What it does is keep archetype identity, variety, and viability.

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