Enlisted really needs a brutal change

After around 4 or 5 years of being a casual player of this game (Since the tech trees were introduced I have mainly played customs mods as I dont find the game as enjoyable anymore), I belive big change is really neaded.

(Btw sorry if my english is not perfect. I belive I have a good level even if it is not my native tongue but should you have any questions make sure to ask me)

Firstly, we need new campaings.
The second world war is great. And it had loads and loads of armament, however, I think adding too much of them to the tech tree will just make it endless and repetitive, same with maps and scenery. But there is a simple way of solving this. New wars. I belive a great starting point would be either korea or the spanish civil war as they are considered to be the predecessor and precursor of ww2.

Secondly I belive it is of vital importance to improve how the player relates to his own caracter. In game there are some problems when aiming. It feels weird and sometimes slow to react. It also from time to time feels as if the caracter is not aswering to what it is commanded. If we compare this to another fps like rainbow, there it does feel better.

And this brings me to my next point. Controls should be improved. Like in every aspect. Planes need to be more complex and similar to warthunder. Infantry needs to be simpler sometimes.

I know this next problem is probably related to war thunder, as it happens there as well, but wheels need to be improved. In motorcicles, tanks, apc… They turn in a pretty unrealistic way and they are too wably, constantly swerving.

My next point is the most important one (at least according to me). The need for gamemodes. Not in the sense of “conquest” or “destruction”, but in a similar way to war thunder. Arcade, reaslitic and sim battles.

Arcade: The current game
(maybe add third person to planes)

Realistic: adding a commander
and sometype of chain of command,
removing the pen indicator from
tanks, adding more playeable
area to maps, adding transport
dutties (both supplies and troops)
that give some high rp rewards,
the existance of an airfield
where planes can both take off
and repair, but they continue to
rearm on air, teamkilling eneabled would be some great ideas.

Simulator: Everything mentioned behind plus no hud, planes have to rearm at airfield and maybe proximity chat and hardcore mode.

Regarding the command chain I mentioned, it is all quite similar to how hell let loose does it. there should be a commander who is someone with experience in the game that can tell orders to group leaders and also place orders on the map. This orders when placed on the map will show up as objectives to the people who they are assigned to. Also a similar thing should happen to AI. The player that controls them should be able to place some orders to them using the map (make them moke to a position, cover another one or even, if it is AI is operating a mortar, tell them where to shoot and they do it themselves).

Related to planes, they should be able to customize their loadouts. In general planes should be closer to war thunder in many aspects.

Another small point I wanted to make is that console aim assist needs to be improved as it is bad and sometimes aims too much or changes the target you were firstly aiming for.

Maybe and just maybe adding playeable artillery would be great, but this is just an idea and not really that important.

AT guns should be able to be towed, making the transport dutties previusly mentioned even more useful.

Last but not least, comes one of the simplier things yet one of the most impactful ones, passwords. Customs right now have one of the most important options made a premium one. In this type of quality of life small things, the developers should not fall for the greedy need for money (I understand a game runs on money, but making this free would improve profit even if it sounds weird). The main problem with this option is not just that people will not be able to play just with their friends or one vs one them, but a much greater one. You see, when you search up on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram or Discord Enlisted, you do not usually find much. The reason behind it is that creators cant film videos, as videos in 80/90% of games are actually recorded on customs (take warthunder as an example. By the way, it also is from gaijing but it does allow everyone to use passwords). The same applies to discord servers, as they mostly recreate historical battles with an enfasis on command and control. The problem with it is that this makes the game to have a feeling of having no real community at all and makes the game to loose its main means of getting new players thus, losing them too. Regarding what I said about money, new players means more money.

This is all I have been able to come up with to make enlisted great. This game at its current state is just wasted talent, which is trully sad.

For everyone who read until here, thanks, and make sure to express your opinion or add new needed ideas. If you are a gaijing mod (or enlisted mod), there is no need to add everything, you can just take some ideas, but the game is kind of becoming obsolete and I belive these changes/additions are necessary.
Again thanks for reading,
S.M.rep99.

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(Hey there, small addition I forgot to mention: in the simulator part there should only be allowed realistic weapons and vehicles, just like it is in warthunder. That means no prototipes or seeing desert stukas on Moscow.This way it makes this gamemode perfect for those who really want realism.)

One adding separate gane modes split the player base so not right now. Two I am not opposed to earlier events like the winter war or invasion of Ethiopian. But I want enlisted to stop at ww2. The jets sf and ar in the game are bad enough no cold war. Or if it is added cold war would be a separate game mode like in world of tanks. That is an ak47 would never be seen in Berlin.

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  1. The player base is low because of all of this, so if we do not change cause they may divide, wr will never increase it.
  2. New campaings would bring new maps, with addapted size and way of figthing…
    Still thank you for aswering
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Yes but one what do we do before new players and two if no new players or less players join then the number that leave, also three game modes if all three equally popular you need there times as many players. These new modes could be just as unpopular as solo mode and die even quicker.

They wouldnt be all as popular. Realistic would be the most played one. Arcade for everyone that likes the current game, and sim should have a server system

I think it’s the reverse if people wanted realistic they would play games like hell let loose. Realistic could only be played solo or with bots a much smarter than enlisted has

But, why would enlisted let a potential playerbase go to another game??? While his own being free and the other no???
About the second thing, thats up to how devs may want it

No I am saying a large percent of players play enlisted because it’s arcade and never has been a simulator game. And if played realistic In squads would be a shooting gallery for planes and tanks slaughtering infantry. Enlisted maps are just to small to play a warthunder type simulation. Yes warthunder has planes and tanks but the scale would not work for enlisted infantry.

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Thats why I said bigger maps were needed. Maybe even some new ways of fighting planes, but still people who like the arcade game can still play it

Sorry but even twice the dimensions would mean twice the time to get to the battle. You would have to double the speed of the infantry. Also increase the speed of tanks apcs bike would be fine there already fine. But what about players on older PCs and systems wouldn’t increasing map size increase demands on hardware and internet

Regarding the size, different kind of cars and vehicles would be there for people to drive.
About the pc thing, it wouldnt affect much as the map size is there in most maps, but the playeable part is limited. The it is just needed to change the borders of the playeable zone and prove of it are the custom mods

Yes there in urban areas but they would have to a make vehicles indestructible. B plaster the maps with them so that are easy to get.or c create a spawning system to summon a car. D give every squad a vehicle like the apc squad.

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I’m not against Enlisted moving forward in time. I think a lot of people support it, but those who are vocal are the ones who don’t support it, and sadly the ones who do aren’t as vocal. It would bring much needed refreshment to the campaigns and whole new game modes. However, I don’t know how the devs will implement it, and I think that’s the same issue they have (hence why they haven’t moved on).

This is something that should be a given. The movement and other mechanics in the game are pretty rough, although they are slowly being improved.

It would be interesting for sure. I feel like simulator battles should be the ones that are hell let loose reminiscent. I would much prefer a realistic battle that is basically the arcade battles, except without the hud and pen indicators (and of course first person only). That I feel would be a better representation of realistic than the one that has been suggested.

The main reason I feel most people play enlisted is because they don’t want the “excessive” team work that hell let loose requires. And therefore, locking it to the highest level of realism would be best. Plus, I find enlisted is nicer on my hardware than hell let loose is.

Sadly, I think the devs aren’t skilled enough to implement this. However, I am all for better AI. Even simply just copying every action the player does would be a massive improvement.

It would be better than constantly explosion packing them or deconstructing them. Instead, I can use an APC or jeep to tow them across the map. Shame the devs haven’t implemented this. I believe it should work similar to how towing tanks does in WT.

The thing about custom matches I’m not so sure on. Creators are doing quite alright making content from live matches (just search Quadro enlisted - he’s the largest creator (or one of them). Although, I do understand how it would help for some ridiculous things that can’t be done ingame, or in general to boost popularity of the game. This is something that should be done regardless.

Maybe the devs should promote their game on steam whenever a sale occurs. That’s assuming they have the money for that, but it would work wonders considering those sale offers reach EVERYONE.

All in all, great suggestion. It’s not often people come up with these sorts of suggestions that are well thought out and actually add to the game. Don’t worry about Kriegerfaust or Adamnpee - they take it as their job to ruin everyone’s day because, as long as it isn’t their own suggestion, they will always hate on it.

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  1. Korea is a terrible idea and I’m sick of people suggesting it, at least with the current vehicle system.

  2. Adding 3 separate game modes like in War Thunder would be a regression.

  3. General AI improvements are always welcome, especially since it’s the main thing that sets Enlisted apart from other shooters.

  4. New campaigns are always welcome too, though I think there are still plenty of WW2 campaigns to be thinking of something as early as Spain.

  5. You’re complaints about aiming and aim assist I’ve never real encountered, personally I just turn aim assist off and the only clunk I generally have with my soldiers is climbing over stuff.

  6. AT gun improvements would be nice, especially with how clunky they are. Same thing with driving, bikes are basically unusable and APCs can be especially weird.

  7. I would love to see planes have customizable load outs, I’d also love a rework to vehicles in herbal centered around a score requirement to spawn one in.

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And on with the Korean War, leave that aside, they won’t mess with it, Enlisted is a World War II game, if you want to play games about the Korean War there’s Rising Storm Vietnam, a game completely about Vietnam, oh yes, he’s dead, do you understand me? In theory it sounds good, but in reality it doesn’t work (nor will it work).

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Thanks a lot.
About the other two guys, I understand not everyone will like the changes i suggest, but its always cool to se someone that agrees with you.

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Im just suggesting what I belive would be better for the game. Change would be needed but theres people who want to see more modern things. Korea (with greater air maps) wouldnt be as different in ground to Br V rn. And rising storm is dead because of the bad decisions and lack of content creators, not because of korea.
Thanks still for telling us your opinion.

the game is going to die if it doesn’t expand to cold war.

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Fine just keep it separate from ww2, which is what I already said keep it out of ww2 maps gameplay, keep it separate like world of tanks only actually do so