Enlisted 2.0 – Historical and Balanced concept. With UK, Italy and France

I want enlisted to be historically accurate but you know I know everyone knows that will never happen

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Some question

Werent these obsolete in 1944 or atleast very rare?

I thought only marines and british used them because they were unreliable. Did they see service in late war western front?

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As I mention:


I am specifically not putting any years to gear use, just general Theaters.

But since you’re asking – rare indeed, but not impossible to see PPD in late war:

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Sorry I forgot Lol

But isnt that ppd 40? It is an later model so it is more likely to appear than ppd 34 38. Also what about the 50 round tommy? Was it used alongside with pershings and late war gear? I would be interested to know

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Probably PPD-40, yes. I guess I could swap 34/38 for 40 in my spreadsheet as well.

Probably not widespread, but it existed by that time and wasn’t anything like a failed prototype.

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Okay thanks for the info. But wouldnt drum tommy break rule 2 then if there is no documented use in europe?

It looks like the magazine sits between the wooden handles so it would be ppd40
But the magazine below the gun hes carrying seems to have some sort of tower thing which was necessary for 34/38
Could be somekind of carrying system too no idea.

Good catch.

I’m not an expert in US weapons, I was sure drums were rarely but used in Europe. If not – it can be removed, of course.

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I love historical accuracy. Good idea.

Now place your bets, how long until the clan and “min-max balance” nerds start trash talking in the comments?

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bold choice to give Germany two MG’s at BR5
i mean the MG42 and FG-42 are great machine guns
or are you including a specialist weapon for paratroopers
in all seriousness ending the us rifle tech tree at br3 and letting germany continue to br5?
yes the us gets the garand and germany gets the
gw41 gw43 and fg-42?
then giving Germany the Tiger 2 and Jagpanter
while giving the us BR4 tanks masquerading as br5
i assume this comes with an upgrade for free to play of a second vehicle slot so they can bring planes

Japan, UK, Italy and France are capped at BR2 only (like Japan is currently capped at BR3).
great way to kill the Japanese faction

Forget about current Enlisted weapon effectiveness for a minute, they are not set in stone.

In BFV M3 Grease Gun and STG-44 are both Assault weapons and both are viable.

Do you have another suggestion without prototypes, paper and fakes? I"m all years for constructive ideas.

ok make the BAR a ‘SF’ at BR5
OK list three op guns that the us has excluding a certain BR2 Thompson with 30 rounds
i never once mentioned the STG-44
The FG-42 was an excellent paratrooper lmg

yeah remove japan it will make balancing much easier
remove qs improve wait times
because a japan that ends at br2 is not worth playing

wow i can play an entire squad in battlefield 5, there different games otherwise you would have gotten rid of brs all together. the garand is not a counter to a lmg fg42. maybe in solo but there is a reason it went away. if you want this disaster in solo if it comes back i approve for a game mode i would never play.

An M3 going against an STG44 will get you smoked you would need to rebalance every gun in the game. so where is the entire overhaul of how every weapon works to go with this new system. and where is the M2 carbine at br4, where is the M1 carbine.

As I said, this is just a concept, not a finalized re-balance paper with every single digit changed.

Never used in Europe, absent.

The list is not exhaustive. I guess put it on BR2 then.

a ‘historical’ massively favors Germany that made limited numbers of powerful weapons. we would also need a productions balance to balance historical weapons. Such as the FG42 2K FG42 2 4K GW41 100K GW3 400K, vs 3 Million M1 Garand and 6 million M1 carbines. BARS 100K Johnson LMG 9.65K, Johnson rifles 22k.

the FG42 is better compared against the BAR M1A2 or Johnson LMG than the garand or limited to being a paratooper weapon. yes the STG44 belongs where it is balance destroying and all but the FG42 was not an infantry rifle. remove the fg42 from rifleman means no longer need to T20 and the 50 round thomson can suffer against the STG44.

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I’m all up for “out-of-the-box” ideas.

I was even thinking about including DP-27, MG-34, Type 11, etc. on BR1 because they were used at Khalkhin Gol / Eastern front at all times, the power of the MG was realized in WW1, and most nations went into WW1 with the focus on MGs.

But the MG/Infantry squads would be 1 MG guy and several bolt action guys helping him, which is more like what was happening IRL as well.

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What kind of restriction fest is this? XD Something like that would never work.

Event ? Separate game mode ( Highly unlike )
In customs as mod ? Sure, since the modding tools were on roadmap last year or year before ?
They could finally grant those since it seems they themselfs have very little intrest to develope the game.

BUT to clarify, I do agree this wont work as main game mode.

Why not? I’m open to constructive critique.

Note that I’m not saying “change the game like this”, I’m saying “this would (have been) viable as well”.