Sorry I forgot Lol
But isnt that ppd 40? It is an later model so it is more likely to appear than ppd 34 38. Also what about the 50 round tommy? Was it used alongside with pershings and late war gear? I would be interested to know
Probably PPD-40, yes. I guess I could swap 34/38 for 40 in my spreadsheet as well.
Probably not widespread, but it existed by that time and wasn’t anything like a failed prototype.
Okay thanks for the info. But wouldnt drum tommy break rule 2 then if there is no documented use in europe?
It looks like the magazine sits between the wooden handles so it would be ppd40
But the magazine below the gun hes carrying seems to have some sort of tower thing which was necessary for 34/38
Could be somekind of carrying system too no idea.
Good catch.
I’m not an expert in US weapons, I was sure drums were rarely but used in Europe. If not – it can be removed, of course.
I love historical accuracy. Good idea.
Now place your bets, how long until the clan and “min-max balance” nerds start trash talking in the comments?
bold choice to give Germany two MG’s at BR5
i mean the MG42 and FG-42 are great machine guns
or are you including a specialist weapon for paratroopers
in all seriousness ending the us rifle tech tree at br3 and letting germany continue to br5?
yes the us gets the garand and germany gets the
gw41 gw43 and fg-42?
then giving Germany the Tiger 2 and Jagpanter
while giving the us BR4 tanks masquerading as br5
i assume this comes with an upgrade for free to play of a second vehicle slot so they can bring planes
Japan, UK, Italy and France are capped at BR2 only (like Japan is currently capped at BR3).
great way to kill the Japanese faction
Forget about current Enlisted weapon effectiveness for a minute, they are not set in stone.
In BFV M3 Grease Gun and STG-44 are both Assault weapons and both are viable.
Do you have another suggestion without prototypes, paper and fakes? I"m all years for constructive ideas.
ok make the BAR a ‘SF’ at BR5
OK list three op guns that the us has excluding a certain BR2 Thompson with 30 rounds
i never once mentioned the STG-44
The FG-42 was an excellent paratrooper lmg
yeah remove japan it will make balancing much easier
remove qs improve wait times
because a japan that ends at br2 is not worth playing
wow i can play an entire squad in battlefield 5, there different games otherwise you would have gotten rid of brs all together. the garand is not a counter to a lmg fg42. maybe in solo but there is a reason it went away. if you want this disaster in solo if it comes back i approve for a game mode i would never play.
An M3 going against an STG44 will get you smoked you would need to rebalance every gun in the game. so where is the entire overhaul of how every weapon works to go with this new system. and where is the M2 carbine at br4, where is the M1 carbine.
As I said, this is just a concept, not a finalized re-balance paper with every single digit changed.
Never used in Europe, absent.
The list is not exhaustive. I guess put it on BR2 then.
a ‘historical’ massively favors Germany that made limited numbers of powerful weapons. we would also need a productions balance to balance historical weapons. Such as the FG42 2K FG42 2 4K GW41 100K GW3 400K, vs 3 Million M1 Garand and 6 million M1 carbines. BARS 100K Johnson LMG 9.65K, Johnson rifles 22k.
the FG42 is better compared against the BAR M1A2 or Johnson LMG than the garand or limited to being a paratooper weapon. yes the STG44 belongs where it is balance destroying and all but the FG42 was not an infantry rifle. remove the fg42 from rifleman means no longer need to T20 and the 50 round thomson can suffer against the STG44.
I’m all up for “out-of-the-box” ideas.
I was even thinking about including DP-27, MG-34, Type 11, etc. on BR1 because they were used at Khalkhin Gol / Eastern front at all times, the power of the MG was realized in WW1, and most nations went into WW1 with the focus on MGs.
But the MG/Infantry squads would be 1 MG guy and several bolt action guys helping him, which is more like what was happening IRL as well.
What kind of restriction fest is this? XD Something like that would never work.
Event ? Separate game mode ( Highly unlike )
In customs as mod ? Sure, since the modding tools were on roadmap last year or year before ?
They could finally grant those since it seems they themselfs have very little intrest to develope the game.
BUT to clarify, I do agree this wont work as main game mode.
Why not? I’m open to constructive critique.
Note that I’m not saying “change the game like this”, I’m saying “this would (have been) viable as well”.
Because most shooters are power fantasies foxhole is a rare exception where people will drive ammo trucks. People cheer for there faction that any ede they get is deserved but the enemy ids unfairly of
Op. The fight between German tank and us allied air power is one example. No one wants to play real WW2 with a lot of bolties and smgs and a few of every other type of gun. It’s why even in the worst of days no one flooded to br1. I just argued with someone who when confronted with the fact the fg42 was a paratrooper weapon said dress the infantry up as paratroopers, you just can make this up
To keep it short, we’ve gone so far to arcade that going back to this kind of limitations would probably harm the game aka Id say majority has got used to john rambo playstyle and only looking to unlock the next more effective landmower.
And the biggest issue for me atleast is the AI. Regardless they have worked on it alot, its still imo piss poor.
But as separate gamemode it probably would work which then again I find highly unlike that they would work on such.
Which leaves yet again only one option, custom games. And tbh thats one of the only things im waiting from the game anymore.
The above mentioned john rambo playstyle gets relatively boring after few years and the entirely missing sbmm aint exactly helping that.
And currently theres just 2 options for me, the slow pace BA action at BR2 which I occasionally play and the BR5 star wars.
At this point different game modes such as this would be fun variation.
And customs because, I actually have higher hopes on community working on those game modes rather than the devs that seems to be extremely lazy and slow to do needed changes.
That’s why I mentioed:
This thread is just a mental exercise. I am aware that nothing like this will be done (we don’t have the playerbase, nobody likes low BR, etc. etc. – I know) The devs are set on making a 1:1 ‘balance’ system with 4 nations x 5 BRs.
If anything at all comes out of it, even an event or custom mode, that would already be a win.
My point is that a system like what I presented looks very much viable, all things aside.