i have to bring it up again im sorry. but the points for engis are ridiculous. pls make rallies and building stuff worth it. i even deployed 2 apc and still i get these peanuts. the whole game i make sure we got rallies up and ammo to win. noone else does. why is this so little appreciated in game reward wise? am i wrong here?
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apparently i cant add pics here. it says i cant add media. even though theres a button for add image… would love to show the win screen and the points i got.
Ive been complaining from the start and look… They still suck.
i mean for the engineer stuff there is possibly a good discussion with good reasons i havnt thought about yet, but for the “cant add image” even though your supposed to drag and drop and there is even an extra button for it, but it doesnt let you. feels amateurish.
for me its fun to help the team win, and there is strategy in placing the stuff as well, so its not boring i think, but a little appreciation game wise would be nice. otherwise id have to switch my gameplay for research and then we would lose more. coax some more engis out of the woodwork pls by appreciating it more!
I mean I main engineer so I dont find it boring but a lot of people do because building doesnt really add much strategic wise and it doesnt give almost any points
I’ve been having this idea that could potentially be a very positive game changer, for this game’s quality of life. Here’s the thing, If they could reduce the time it takes to build rally points at least by half, or less. That’d make a huge improvement and building rallies wouldn’t be such a chore, for both veteran and new players alike. It would only be reasonable given how easily they can be destroyed with a single shot or a random explosion nearby. And we need this more than ever now with the recent inclusion of “guerrillas / saboteurs” because the grey zone is not safe anymore.
Also, earnings more points for doing team work with engineer structures would be greatly appreciated.
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thats what im saying. it doesnt give much points even though its one of the determining factors if you win or not. like, if you attack it doesnt matter how many you kill since theyre endless, what matters if you can get to the point quickly, ie. close rallies. if you defend its wether you can be on point constantly, ie. close rallies, ammo, crooks and bags. i dont want to count the games i played where noone is putting down anything. btw. i got everything researched till br5 but im still playing br2. maybe its different in higher br because they know better, but in br2 its sometimes exhausting and i dont think new players know how valuable a rallie is or that teamplay is crucial. how would they when building stuff is regarded so little?
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could also be good bridge. would need testing. im not sure what the solution is but there has to be one.
Hu? Engis don’t underperform just because people are too bad at the game.
Rallies are still necessary for victory.
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1 rally could potentially give you 35*20=700 exp for litteraly one building.
Sandbags also can generate enormous amount of points(yes, it’s like 6 per protection from bullet but how many those protections could be? dozens? hundreds?)
Barbed wire the same as sandbags, but oposite type of action - dealing dmg to the eny troops.
So once again, it’s not just about build and receive infinite exp - it’s about building in a proper place so it will be used properly and for each use you will receive one peanut, and if you placed stuff right - you will end up with a truck full of peanuts.
P.S. If you wanna the real MONEY - use engineers squads with AA/AT guns (plus II-III tiers have LMG) - one plane 330, one tank - 150, one enemy 30(+15 if near the capture point). But this will require even more skill in comparison to the default engineer buildings.
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P.S.2 To be honest - when you will become master engineer - you will understand that engineers should be nerfed because they provide way to much power for a mortal 
thx guys for the input! i appreciate it. @GeneralBrus i dont think im bad at the game. i just like to put thought in it. without focusing on engis im usually in the top 2 or 3. wish i could post those pics and replays. with focus im around 5ish. @mangustss thank you for doing the math. i dont think 700 is decent though if that is it. how many are we building usually? also keep in mind that fortified structures are likely to be circumvented and in low br people dont tend to use cover that well. so people in low br dont use your stuff well which means less points. also ive never seen someone do very good with aa/at, me included, because you get shot within 30 sec. or so but i take your word for it. the engi thing i think might be just a low br problem. i go of a friend for example who i introduced to the game. for him it was just boring because he always had to run the whole way to the point to just get shot and start over, because noone put down rallies. and again why would they? they dont know, nor are they incentivized to do it. right?
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id just like more points for rallies and simple building pls. 
Never tried to insult you - what I meant is that Rallies are very strong and people who don’t build them are bad at the game - to say we need to buff them because people don’t build rallies is the wrong approach to this.
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many engies main tried do make gajin we have more structures, it´s shameful…
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I think they’re great, I unlock them before the final XP node because they add so much score, & are needed to win. But I noticed that many people will refuse to spawn on your rallies if they’re more than like 80m from the point, so try putting them a bit closer maybe?
Playing engineer and picking belly button lint on the backlines is terrible score, yes - But the rally ticks up score while you attack enemy positions if you’re playing to win. Don’t babysit it, just drop a rally and start blasting.
hey @GeneralBrus, no worries, didnt take it as such. just wanted to clarify where im currently at and where im coming from. i dont necessarily think people who dont build rallies are bad at the game, they either dont know beause theyre new, they dont care about teamwork or the effort/reward ratio isnt enough for them. the ones who dont care about teamwork we cant do anything about unfortunately but the others might be converted to do mre engi stuff by more explanation and by more incentives. that was my thought at least. i wouldnt want to buff engis, just give more points for rally building, bags and crooks? i dont know what else to do to make people build stuff. it would be for the good of the game too i think. another option would be something like @Bridge_of_sighs4 idea. i just think this low br rally problem is holding enlisted way back and makes it difficult for new players to enjoy. any other ideas are of course greatly welcome! hope youre good guys
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also i think enlisted has a great opportunity to make this game about teamwork and focus on it. like almost every soldier who went to war will tell you that they didnt fight for their government or some specific political goal but for each other and the guys in their team, squad, platoon or whatever. to keep each other alive. this is not a rambo game. of course its about defeating the enemy but you cant win it by yourself. it would make sense to me to appreciate the teamwork more than has been medic and engi wise.