Engineer Tutorial - usage of engineers are still relatively uncommon

and give XP if someone spawns in my rally point. actually there are no direct reward for building them.

give us some anti-air tanks instead of AA guns from engineer

Except sending reinforcements on a flank, building cover where you need it, and shorter time to battle on your next spawn? Plus, they did that a patch or two ago.

AA guns will never be as good as an aircraft for an equally skilled player and 1 to 1 spawn relationship. Aircraft have freedom of maneuver; while, AA (even mobile) are for the most part stationary. Historically, it took a lot of them.

They honestly should get rid of spawned AA guns and either have them AI or stationary guns already on the map that players can jump in. There’s just not enough of them and predominately they’ll be used as Anti Infantry; because, they’re just better at doing that.

Preset stationary AAA is the worst idea you can think of.
They will be bombed out of existence in the first 2 min of the battle. Unless they can basically onetap enemy plane.

I don’t know… I can think of worse. :slight_smile:

You can respawn them… fortify them, facing only up. Whatever, there are lots of ways around that issue you brought up, with even the slightest bit of thought. It would also give them something else to go after instead of the spawns/objectives.

Based on my BF experience, you can do absolutely nothing to stop this. Except for adding hand held AA launcher or making AAA stupid strong.

In War Thunder (and history for that matter) the best defense against bombers is a strong offense with Fighters.

AA is never good enough… You’d need a many to one relationship to make them effective, or stupid strong as you said.

I know.
But it’s very situational deffence.
a) somebody in your team has to have a fighter equipped
b) he has to know how to use it
And in match with randoms, chances of both of those occurring simultaneously is next to 0.

Yeah, in game it’s too hard for that also; at least, on that first pass. They’d need to implement an “Air Raid” warning and spawn the bombers further away to give it any chance of success.

The Air attack here is just stupid strong; especially, with reloads and no-FF. I still stand by my belief that Gaijin Game designers are a bunch of trollish players.

In any event; this is pretty far outside of the Engineer tutorial discussion… We’re bumping it though. :slight_smile:

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The problem with AA now is even if they were all over the map ya can hardly shoot down a plane considering how it was earlier yesterday I spawned in and my squad got blown apart by a bomb so why not then not even have map boundaries - currently infantry and tanks cannot go on certain enemy areas of the map since planes can bomb anywhere they should open this up but since no one would want this then planes should have no fly zones too besides just the extreme map edges. Do you understand the concept ??? My infantry unit cannot camp the default spawn point behind enemy lines - why ?? this is so that it is not so aggravating when ya spawn in with a fresh squad but yet a plane can drop a bomb and wipe out an entire squad even if I could camp a spawn in the current out of bounds area if would be hard to wipe out an entire squad compared to how easily a plane can.