Elegant AI Problems Solution

The current state of AI is inadequate & doesnt fit the description of a squad based game.
Most suggestions to improve this require unrealistic expectations for DFs coding skills, but here is a feature that even 20 year old games have: Let players give their bots certain behaviors in the main menu.

eg: always attack tanks in sight (for at gunners), always hide/prone to avoid enemy fire (eg for Radio men).

setting simple personal behavior for every soldier/soldier class by clicking within the main menu turns enlisted into a real squad based shooter and increases (new) player engagement.

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I have no idea what you mean with that, what we have here is state of the ART AI.

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id like squad movement formations

new_pa2

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Tbh all suggestions to improve AI require unrealistic expectations. After 4 years progres is almost unnoticable in terms of “basic” AI.

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Me too, bro; I asked for this to be added a while back.

I think that DF is gonna implement PvE in a future and i’m at least 60% sure since they are testing it with zombies rigth now…

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PvE will drop player rates significantly since many players are annoyed of sweaty games.
Furthermore in PvE there is much less incentive so spend money on premium stuff, therefore I am 100% DF/Gaijin wont introduce any PvE modes for these 2 reasons.

Most basic fonction they need is getting to cover when a machinegun shooting at them

I’m pretty sure that they Will do it like escape from tarkov:

“60 bucks pls and You unlock PvE mode where You grind faster”

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yeah thats an option, but enlisted cant afford the hard player number drop from that.
even with bigger numbers than atm its still more profitable to keep the whales spend trillions on stomping the masses than letting the masses escape to PvE.
thats average gaijin business procedure. :tipping_hand_man:

We already got PvE modes in form of time limited events.
DF literally already introduced PvE.

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I think if AI can’t be improved, nerf player performance will be enough.
Make all weapons have greater recoil and take much longer to reload, so that players cannot serve as one man army and be forced to takes AI serious.
This is much simpler than improve AI.

I would just quit the game. I don’t want to play reload simulator. I do enjoy fast paced gameplay of enlisted. This would drastically change gunplay. And definitely only to worse.

And I don’t even understand this obsession for better AI. I want to be the one who’s shooting and enjoying gun play. I don’t need to be carried by AIs.

Just don’t rely on your AI soldiers. You’re the one playing the game. AIs is just a placeholder, an artificial targets for less experienced people to shoot at and have fun against. There’s plenty of people that struggle even now, lol.

It’s really pathetic to rely on your AI surviving for longer period of time. This game is definitely about that.

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Ai is bad at following orders and doing strategic decisions but also really annoying to fight against. They will shoot you through foliage, quickscope you from 300m and insta stab you on melee distance. If we make the players actions more slower ai will be extra annoying

We forwarded a big and good feedback about AI problems, so devs aware of many issues and working on them.

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No offence but we’ve heard this for the last 4+ years.

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Hard disagree. The game is advertised as “you lead a squad of soldiers” and I want to do exactly that.
I want to give them commands, take shooting positions, storm a building, employ some basic small unit tactics, be an actual squad leader. With current AI I can at most lead a “”“charge”“” of lemmings (it’s not even a charge).
If somebody doesn’t like that there is always the lone fighter mode.

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You can already do all of it. It’s just not effective. And I don’t see why AI should be more effective than players are.
I don’t want to play game just to be carried by my bots, lol.

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So I can’t do it if I want to win.

I’ve never said that. Stop imagining things.

I just want AI to not suck and be able to follow basic orders and tactics and be useful at all.
Now I can order them to hold position, look in the direction and they will get slaughtered with body advantage 7:1.


Muh advanced AI (this is wide formation btw, they all get one shotetd by a tank in the next minute).

Play lone fighters then.

I never said you said that. :man_shrugging: It would only logically lead to that. Enlisted never had the ambition to be some de facto iteration of ww2 themed ARMA-like game where you could command your squad. Something like that would never have a chance to succeed in a free to play format.
It’s not the developers fault that you just got it wrong.

Squad in enlisted definitely has a tactical role in the game and definitely affects it’s gameplay. The fact that the gameplay doesn’t reflect ww2 historical and real tactics is the other thing. And entirely seperate topic.

Enlisted is definitely still true to how it was marketed

Why? I do enjoy Enlisted the way it was intended to be. I don’t need some drastic changes to AI that would completely change whole gameplay.
I do enjoy spraying whole squads of bots. It’s relaxing.

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