Either nerf the IL2s Armor or at least its flying characteristics along with speed

yes i had the same problem with the 20mm on the BF against IL2 and think so. Not sure about that though if they are the same, if some pack HE and some AP but i doubt it. All the other planes even the thickest of bombers the Russian has i have no what so ever problem with penning and make burn so to speak. They are much easier to shoot down.

Ive shot down plenty of IL2s and sometimes they go down fast to if youre lucky. Usually i go for their wheel bump at their wings since its bigger target to aim for, engine or the pilot ofc if theres opportunity for it when aiming at the soft spots.

But sometimes its just ludicrously armored and think this is just pure BS from an gamer perspective.
I mean im no ace and i know theres much more room for improvement for sure :slight_smile: Like i said ive could have done better in this one in some areas for sure ^^ But im not a bad pilot either managing to dogfight two other decent pilots at once. But this is not about piloting but how one lvl 7 plane which dominates the air so strongly at that lvl can perform like it does with the things it can tank so to speak ^^ And its def not bad against ground targets to. Ive seen rly good pilots wrecking havock so dont give me that nonsense

So if it could be done, buffing the damage for the 15 and 20mm ONLY for the BF109, wouldn’t this help?

Would be unfair against the other planes Russia have though since i think its balanced measured against them

Isn’t the point of a 20mm round to be unfair?:)))

no it must be balanced :slight_smile: which is the point of all this xD but its an hard task for sure also from the programmers perspective. Mess with one thing and sht might happen xD

Well i also got literaly shredded in a IL2 from small arms fire from the ground, so i’m not sure where the problem lies, because if you reduce its armour, it will be even more susceptible to fire from the ground.

Thats AI for you :slight_smile: But yeah you can shoot down an IL2 with 7.98mm sometimes which also is weird. But that AI also fires AT weapons at ya so count that in to.

I would say keep the armor but make it less agile perhaps and it should def loose more energy.
Ive seen one shooting straight up in the air with me to then cork screw climb along after that which made no sense ^^ Sure i was above him all the time but still i was pretty amazed how he didnt lost energy

yeah i dont know bc i usually dont take 6 minutes to kill an enemy aircraft, yknow shooting at weakspots it easier than dogfight and shooting center mass witgh a bad angulation.

yeah shooting center mass and wings its kind bad doesnt is?

Yeah i hit center couple of times, but i also hit his engine, tail which includes steering (alot with 15mm), wings etc…What else is there then mr expert ?
So should new players have to pinpoint cm of armor just to kill a plane ? Shouldnt that be the other way around to then ? or no i guess its just L2P

Just for lolz next time i’ll play i’m gonna try to bring down an IL2 with an HS123 :rofl:

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I killed 2 with an Stuka but those pilots either gave af or was afk or something…Thought they where bots at first xD

And to make my life easier, my hs123 has 0 upgrades :sweat_smile:

But you will perform wonderful with that one though even if you only have 2 guns instead of Russians 4 which also raises my eyebrows. This cause you are going to be like an flie on some sugar <3 Biplanes are no joke even for fighters in cqc. But they usually fall when you boom and zoom them since because of speed you do the terms mostly

I dont get it. Russia gets Air superiority, godly Smgs and so on early on. Germany sure gets something later though to pick up but up to LVL7 as one example it makes no sense. Tanks maybe but even there the Russians are pretty even

I know, i’ve used them before, the chalanging part is the twin 8mm MG 17 that shoot toothpics :)))

yeah thats why he was still flying?

that is this game break when they want, and 7.92 just cant break them

btw a good 50% of your 15 mm was wasted shooting blindly, in wt this works but in enlisted planes are more resistant

you dont need to pinpoint, and yes new player already have this type of problems bc the planes have an hiogh skill ceiling

basically

wow you didnt even watch the vid xD and that firing blindly part ive got one shotted from around 1k range from behind and critted me so i doubt that he aimed for that one :wink: Sure can be unlucky but these things happens pretty often in sharp turns where you dont have room to aim so dont give me that crap

Ik and In wt it’s easy bc the damage models are differnt, in this game this type of “attack” don’t works.

But it does. Ive killed plenty of planes like this as they have killed me. Ill come out with an montage soon that you can judge all you want. Have plenty of recordings.

Doesnt ignore the facts that an IL2 can tank an whole clip of AA hitting straight in to it up close either and still manage to fly which def says something doesnt it ? Or do you have to aim there to ? Skill issues i guess

As with all planes
Aim for the cockpit
Guns have next to no convergence so if you’re using anything wing mounted you’ll have to aim to the right or left to choose a side to kill his pilot with
109 has nose mounted so just dump into his cockpit with the 8mm

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Bf110g-2 would like to have a word with you