"DT29 needs a little buff."

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Right now, it’s the second-worst LMG in BR4. The absolute worst one only has 20 rounds—I don’t even want to post its stats. But buffing it to br3 would also be a bad idea. Devs, please give it a buff in either recoil or fire rate; otherwise, it’s just a higher horizontal recoil version with worse DPM.

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now Dregomz will come and tell that this machine gun is unbalanced because it is Soviet, that the MG42 and MG34 75 are very weak and bad

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:dromedary_camel: :point_right: :point_left:

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There was also this.

In theory, it should differ from the regular DT-29 in that it has better recoil.

(I tried to find a photo of this thing with optics, but I didn’t get it)

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Wrong, I will. It’s arguably better than all the other MGs on this list. Do you know why?

Because unlike the others on this list where you have to burst fire, the DT-29 can full on spray without ever letting off the trigger, which is far more effective. Plus, it’s more accurate than the others.

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does it matter that even the data sheet states that the vertical recoil of the DT29 is 2.5 times higher than that of the MG34-42?

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Does 40% vertical recoil reduction and bracing not exist? I never found it too hard to control when crouching anyway. I actually find the MG 34 harder to control.

Poor Johnson LMG, so bad that it’s catching strays even though the post is about something else entirely.

Something something much more recoil than the MG-34 something something.

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Is your argument that the DT-29 has less recoil than the MG-34 or that its higher recoil doesn’t matter because recoil can be mitigated into a non-factor? If it’s the former then that claim is just objectively incorrect because the actual game numbers show it as much higher, if it’s the latter then the fact that recoil is no longer relevant means that only the rof and mag capacity matters in which case the MG-34 again comes out ahead.

Yeah it’s a bit meh.

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My opinion of the Johnson LMG? :yum:
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As far as the DT-29, I don’t use it so
I have no comment. In all honesty,
I really don’t use MG’s much past
level three.

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The second point, and you’re still wrong in a way. The DT-29 comes out on top purely because it’s rate of fire is slower, meaning you can suppress people for longer. Plus, it’s a magazine reload, not belt fed, meaning you can start shooting again faster (why had everyone forgotten the fatal flaw of the MG 34/42 being belt fed)

Let’s stop pretending that the high ROF of the MG-34 is actually a downside, the single second of lower shooting time the MG-34 gets is absolutely worth the greater amount of firepower it provides. And while the MG-34 does reload somewhat slower than the DT-29, it is again not by a degree enough to nullify the upsides of the gun. TBH for both guns if you’re forced to reload it in the middle of shooting someone you’re kind of fucked.

Also to be a pedant, the MG-34 being used with the Patronentrommel 34 magazine is not using a belt feed.

My mistake, I personally prefer using the MG 42 because to me the recoil is easier to handle than the MG 34. I was under the impression the Patronentrommel was literally just two drums like the 50 round MG 34 strapped together, not a completely different thing.

That logic can basically apply to any gun. Still, at the end of the day, it’s what people prefer using. Don’t forget the Soviets are the only ones in BR IV to have 70 round magazine SMGs (Axis have 40 round, Japan and US both have 50 round and much slower RPM). Plus, let us also not forget the turtle armour most Soviet mains have equipped. I think as a whole, the Soviets are well and truly balanced.

Only thing that isn’t balanced for the Soviets is the teams.

Doesn’t need a buff
Has an incredible reload speed, best in class accuracy, as well the best muzzle velocity.

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Nah, it’s fine. Asymmetrical balance like this is fine. Soviets already get best-in-class weapons in other BRs.

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No, I’m talking about the DT-29 :slight_smile:

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These tiny numerical advantages can’t make up for a 200+ RPM difference. The opponents I face are all sexually repressed nerds—they only use the best builds.

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as a soviet main, DT-29 seems honestly fine as is.


Would a sniper variant be cool? Absolutely,

I routinely use Johnson LMG in BR5 with no issues (its light and has high DPS - whats the issue?)

Whats your issue with DT-29? Personally since BR changes most BR4 lineups get uptiered into BR5, and FG42 is no match for the very best SVT40 build.

AKA my point is BR4 generally is extremely underpowered vs BR5.

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