Despite being so close, with the M38 noticeably edging out the OG-43 overall with a better reload, velocity, rate of fire, and a bayonet, the OG-43 is still a tier higher. While the M38 does have higher recoil it makes little difference with perks and the bayonet, and the M38 is still far more effective at taking out enemies. Please consider downtiering the OG-43 - I really donât think the flamethrower is good enough to be a balance issue as they are already quite bad and have 1/3 the ammo of TT flamers as well as the squad only getting 2, and besides itâs already considered balanced for br1: you can get 2x flamethrowers from the box br1-2 and br2-3.
I think the reason why it isnât BR I is because of the Beretta M38 paras filling that role. Had they not been there, it likely wouldâve been BR I. And I would say the flamethrower is the biggest problem, since no other nation would have a BR I flamethrower.
The OG-43 paras significantly predate the M38 squad, coming from an event October 2023, while the M38 squad came out a year later with the guerilla update (October 2024). This isnât a reason at all.
They already can take it into br1 as is, and itâs not even that good.
I was just trying to make sense of Gaijinâs decision. But I forgot Gaijin canât be reasoned with. But I honestly thought the M38 squad was the older squad.
Yes but at br2 they have to fight br 1 2 and 3 and at br1 they would only have to fight br 1 and 2 so yes big difference
Secondly gaaaa, itâs almost like nearly identical weapons should not be at multiple brs like all 30 round Thompsonâs should be br3. .hmmmmbsorry but I wonât give up either 30 round Thompsonâs fit br 2 3 4 or only br3
If anything it would make more sense for the OG-43 to be br1 and M38 br2. Also, itâs still bizarre they made it a German squad and not Italian. I know Germany used them, but, cmon. Itâs an Italian gun. They could just make a German para squad with mp40s with the stocks removed or folded in or something.
I would fully agree that the OG-43 should be BR1, however, if the Devâs gave âALLâ the paratrooper squads âUNLOCKEDâ weapons, like they did with the Soviets paratrooper squads, the BR level problem is solved. However, the OG-43 should be a level one smg IMOP.
That should be saved for TT paras, event paras would still be different due to their unique guns. Might be a concern but I think the Soviet para event + premium squads wouldnât lose value due to that since it would just mean you can have more para squads with different equipment for different br presets, and the premium one would still have a premium bonus.
If flamethrowers were too overpowered for br1 they wouldnât be allowed to get them from the box in downtiers, or would be restricted to one guy with one in br1. While you could get them more consistently this way they simply arenât that good, and 2 guys with flamethrowers with 100 flamethrower âammoâ each is just a novelty and no more game breaking than being able to take a 3xPPS-43s into every br1 match like Soviet paras can if equipped with the PPD-34.
Yes but you also have the risk of having a br1 smg in br3 with flamers thatâs the balance the risk reward. Sometimes youâre on top sometimes the middle and sometimes the bottom. You want to remove being on the bottom so no. no itâs not a novelty for the br1 players being burned. Remove one or two of the flame throwers and fine itâs âbalancedâ. No a flamethrower is not the same as a br2 smg maybe if they had four it might match. That be like saying x mg is the same br as y smg there not the same thing. You only get two flamethrower s in a squad and four smg in a squad so no not equal.
Yeah, thatâs part of the reason why I never bought it. And also because I think any premium squad is too overpriced. Had those 2 reasons not been the case, I wouldâve bought them.
HAHAHAHAHA and I thought the buffoon of the year was the guy who wanted the MKB-42 in BR III, buffed and also for riflemen or the one who wanted the JPZ IV in BR III, now the guy comes out who wants a squadron that is the only one with flamethrowers in BR II to be BR I.
Which do they smoke to have these ideas of âbalanceâ based on their skill problems? When they were in the campaigns and could do whatever they wanted because they were broken, they didnât complain, but since that advantage is gone, now they do, these users with German bias are surpassing themselves every day
Have it automatically increase mag size by 10 more rounds per each BR starting from BR1:
Make 20 round a BR1, 30 rounds BR2, 40 rounds BR3.
Donât allow them to have flamethrowers at BR1 obviously.
If Gaijin canât do such basic thing as dynamic weapon loadout that this game has zero future as they canât gasp even simplest concepts to make game better it will get stagnant the same till shut down and merge with WT.
merge how they are different scales, merging with wt would do one of two things
kill warthunder by making combat toxic
or killing infantry use as infantry would become free points bag
or they would have to make infantry fully ai pinatas
as any map with enough cover for infantry would make movement for anything but heavy and medium tanks impossible.
Make 20 round a BR1, 30 rounds BR2, 40 rounds BR3.
i dont want to see made up thompsons with 40 rounds or a bren with 40 rounds ect just for balance at different brs
now for guns like the og43 that could work
It used the same double-stack magazines as the Beretta MAB 38, available in 10, 20, 30 or 40 rounds.
just dont make up fictional loadouts that did not exist
I mean it makes sense i guess, maybe devs or some players think they would be 2 strong cause of flame throwers with very limited fuell idk. I doubt sadly that they will change anything
