Admittedly it’s rare for me to see it this bad, but ffs…
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How about a simple 5 minute wait time before being able to look for a new game?
Combined with a system where you can reconnect during this time doesn’t sound too bad right?
Still allows you to quit a map that you really hate, but will make it annoying to do it on a regular basis.
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crew lock was a horrible mechinic in war thunder so don’t even try to bring it here 
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You should be shot for even suggesting crew lock
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yeah locking them out the game doesn’t make any sense
but severe punishment to deter that behavior YES, that will work
double the penalty isn’t enough
it needs to cost a lot of xp as punishment commensurate to their level, so that quitting a match becomes a serious decision, not something you do everytime you don’t get your plane or tank or ideal circumstances you desire everytime
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Dont get it, every other not server browser based game does something similar to this and people don’t complain, whats so bad about this?
I’m not ever going to advocate punishing people for leaving a shit match
Its a game
Not a sport
Its meant to be fun, and if you aren’t having fun there’s no reason to stay in the match
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You don’t have to get competitive in order to still desire a fair match, and just quitting will doom your mates to lose, this is without a doubt a problem.
If you don’t want to play with a stupid team or don’t want to play a certain map, ruining the fun for others can’t be the solution, instead there needs to be a way to make sure that each of us get into the optimal match to begin with.
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Its not my problem if they lose
Its not a serious game
The solution is simply to leave and requeue
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I accept those terms the moment you pay me 100€/hour to play the game, till then you can fuck the right off with your draconian punishments. 
Seriously. The way is to make sure the game is fun, and not by forcing people to play things they don’t want to.
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Why not for once go in the other direction?
For every 10 games without desertion, you get a random daily login unlock reward.
Creates a positive incentive to stick in the game.
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It depends on their intentions. But a game can’t really identify their intentions, which makes it difficult to punish.
Pacific Axis in particular is in a bad state because most people use it to farm wins, since nobody plays US. So if they quit because they can’t do that (eg. US wins for once) then they deserved to be punished.
Most other cases are acceptable in my opinion, like not wanting to play a particular map or game mode.
Speaking of farming wins, I really hope this person isn’t just upset because they couldn’t do just that… but the fact that they are just sitting in a plane doesn’t look good for them…
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yeah, well thats not even an opinion at this point.
“I want to have fun, and if I dont have fun, I make others lose their fun”
how do you not realize that you are in a destructive circle?
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How do you not understand it is not my responsibility to carry a team of people who are going to lose
It is not my responsibility to ensure some shitter’s fun
It is not my responsibility to sit out a horribly losing match so Timmy Blueberry can have his fun
Your fun is not my responsibility
Its not destructive at all
If your team leaves
Just leave
Same thing with bad maps
I have never seen a good player complain about people leaving matches either funnily enough
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so now everyone who disagrees is a bad player then?
I dont know who hurt your feelings about this topic or "how bad war thunder was with that “crew lock mechanic”
but to me it just seems pretty chaotic that this game has this super weird leaving mentality, unseen at other games.
next time you play and want to win, and someone just leaves because he just doesn’t like your smell or something I bet my left kidney that you are the first to complain about your team mates throwing the match by leaving for no reason what so ever.
Probably one of the main reasons why ppl quit.
Not having exactly fair match.
Cant really punish the player either for having a team he never chose tho.
We can only hope the upcoming matchmake will evolve to something like that.
Tbh the game does absolutely nothing to ensure
- balanced games its just absolute lottery
- not able to select game mode or maps
1st being probably the biggest issue, its not fun to get spawn killed with useless team
Nor its not exactly fun to be at opposite end either, shooting trash enemy team to spawn and waiting them to bleed tickets.
To put it this way, untill these issues gets fixed there simply is no room for punishments of anykind.
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I complain about my teammates throwing the match by never even going within 50m of the objective
And if it doesn’t shape up, I leave
I’m not bashing my head against the wall as the only one the enemy is going to end up shooting at since I’m the only one who shows up
That isn’t fun
Idgaf if my team leaves, you can still win matches despite that
No, its just something I noticed. None of the people I play with or talk to that I’d say are good at the game complain about leavers aside from like a contrarian or two. I wasn’t directing that specifically at you my bad.
But like Timmy Shitmuncher making a new thread crying MY TEAM LEFT from the bottom of the scoreboard doing so well you’d check post match to see if he’s a bot
Because a bad match is a bad match and there’s a significant population seems to be of mind that they’re entitled to the time, patience, and mental fortitude of others to stick out a shit match in a F2P arcade shooter
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I like to see this being explored further as an addition to the punishment discussion
because if you only apply an extra tiny reward for people who already stick it out, that won’t stop the rest from ignoring that reward, especially considering it is so little of an incentive, which would basically change nothing other than giving people a little tiny crumb for suffering because of the quitters
no, that won’t do it
but it would be nice as an extra thing to reward players who stick it out, though it would have to be commensurate with the amount of quitters they had to endure in that 10 game window, which is why I suggested to take xp from the quitters and give it to the ones who stick it out
but the issue isn’t the players sticking it out
the issue is the quitter players ruining matches, they are making the matches worse than they should be
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Yes, we see more unbalanced games and snowball games than good even fun challenging matches, and that is a big problem in the game, and it has less to do with the types of weapons and squads than the players being uneven on teams, by a ridiculous margin, so I believe the br changes will only help a little bit as it does not address the other reasons why people quit matches, and there are many more of those reasons that will remain after the br changes
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Yes this would address one the reasons why people quit. Issue here from what I have seen in other games is that then only certain maps/modes get played, and then that would result in killing others that are less popular, despite being the things that other people love, so you end up ruining the minority in favor of the majority, thus hurting the bottom-line of a game and losing more players as a result
Yes, it’s not fun going 4 vs 10 and just getting pummeled, the only saving grace is that it’s usually fast anyway
However there is room for punishment, if implemented well, it would balance more games out, as right now the unbalanced matches are the dominant aspect of the game, and that’s hurting the game a lot, as it becomes a cycle of self destruction for the game culture
Most matches are either too easy and boring because the other team quit, or too difficult and boring because your team quit
the idea of a game like this should be to provide good matches
and as it stands it’s doing more bad matches than good matches because of all the quitting going on and the unbalanced players on each team and the difference in players effect on the matches
and now to the most shocking part
even if they made the perfect balanced matchmaker with even players on each team and very close in experience, skill and gear, players still going to quit without severe punishments, because there are other reasons people are quitting
such as, didn’t get ma plane, didn’t get ma tank, didn’t get ma map, didn’t get ma mode, didn’t get the team mates I wanted, didn’t get the enemies I wanted, didn’t get a good start, don’t like a certain team mate, don’t like a certain enemy etc…
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So you want to force me to play against an all human enemy team and my team is all bots?
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I guess we have to have this thread every day.
When I spawned into a conquest map nearly 3 mins in and the enemy had all three points… should I need to stay? I did for a bit but then saw there were no rallies and people were sniping and in vehicles. Why the hell would I stay there? It’s 6 minutes of my life wasted.
Penalize me more I uninstall. I’m not alone.
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