That’s my belief- Soviet tanks just seem like easier targets than Panzers, especially with the crew spaced far apart in the Panzers.
My only real gripe with the PTRD itself is that it doesn’t seem to shoot consistently; for example at one point I was aiming at a track and ended up hitting the top of the turret on a Panzer II. That might be more of a factor of how I like to pop out of cover and shoot while moving, which will dramatically effect shot spread without the perk for it.
I’ve noticed as well in the monastery that I can shoot the roof of panzers from high up, but I’ve never been able to actually pen the roof, as opposed to getting through side armor easily. Not sure if that’s how it should work, you would think the roof would be more lightly-armored.
In an earlier non-NDA version of the game I am allowed to talk about the Soviets had the KV-2, T26, BT-7 and early T34 for as tanks. While the KV2 would be absolutely overkill, why not add the T34? My guess is that those were removed for “balance” reasons.
We are not allowed to talk about the very first Moscow test because it was a closed alpha test under NDA.
So I think you mean already a later one. But yes.
Edit: I still have to get a single win when playing the USSR.
Honestly I play soviets far more often than I did in the past (in fact, I only rarely play for axis lately) and I´m not having much issues with loosing, or any of the soviet weaponry.
In fact soviets don´t even need to upgrade their rifles to be actually usable, so after a bit of practice worse sights on certain weapons are not a problem either.
I honestly think it is just people refusing to use their own brains along with guns they have. Yes, soviets have some awful equipment, but also same is applied for axis.
Yes, soviets tend to struggle if they have part of their team composed of bots due to lack of players, but when they are in full player match, we mostly shred axis with a bit of coordination (yes, I said “a bit”, you don´t even need to try hard). Of course if axis outskills you even then, I wouldn´t call it imbalanced.
I will also add a bit of War thunder experience and say, that in there soviet and allied teams in general really suffers often because of their own ignorance of how to use their equipment to their advantage (a lot of allied planes are so much better than german equipment, yet they keep loosing… that is not a myth, that is a fact, allied teams are known for utter incompetence, look it up).
That is just my honest experience with allied teams in general.
Did I complain about equipment being unusable? I normally end up with the same performance on both sides. I am playing this game since every closed pre-alpha test in 2017 and still I had not a single match that I won with the soviets in the current version. I am not sure what the reason for it is and that is why I made this thread.
Perhaps wrong time to play soviets? It may be caused by playing off peak and having teammates mostly composed of bots. And the reason why I included equipment argument is, that most slavaboos (I hate using these kind of names) are using that as main (and only) argument about why are soviets loosing, while anyone who says otherwise is then supposedly wehraboo. So I just included it preventively to not be considered as one.
Also, having no wins for soviets for such a long time? That must be exaggeration, right? I can´t believe anyone would be that unlucky.
Well, I am playing them since about 3 or 4 days. And well, I could complain about equipment but both sides have advantages and disadvantages. For example, obviously the Mosin Nagant is especially with the M91 the better rifle. Meanwhile the MP38 and MP41 are the better submachine gun because they are more versatile than the PPD. The Premium thing weapon would be an option if I was willing to spend even more money on the game right now but I am not.
My idea for the current unbalance is simple: The amount of “Elite squads” on the german side is far higher which is hard to counter if most people are running around with overglorified sticks. Also at least the starting Mosin is I believe worse than the german rifles. But than again I equiped all my german soldiers with this.
Truth is, that MP-41 is pretty good weapon and since people tend to prefer playing axis for whatever reasons (one argument was that it is nation bias and I absolutely support it, as European players are often more hesistant to play as soviets for example), that automaticaly leads to seeing more german premium squads on the field than soviet ones. ( Don´t get me wrong, both PPK and MP-41 are just pure cancer, but since german type of cancer is more seen, it may also play a role)
Honestly all I can advise in that manner is to try to play in different times if it is even possible, because right now queues are not populated enough to be balanced all the time.
tbh the PPK is probably better in premium hands (higher RoF and higher recoil that doesn’t matter to premiums), but you never see it because German premiums are just more popular ways to get into the game.
I actually was curious so I purchased soviet squad too (yes, primary reason were posters, don´t judge me lmao) and I don´t think its only PPK itself, but rather unique combination of PPDs with PPK that makes that squad pretty good in every situation. One could argue that semi auto on MP 41 can do the same but… honestly semi auto of pistol damage is just something I never found useful in any situation.
I bought both and got the posters, but it was more because I watched other good games go under and I want this game to stay afloat.
If you ask me, the MP 41 is better if you’re a non-premium as well. I have a habit of picking them up whenever I see them, and the lower RoF makes them a lot more controllable without recoil perks than the PPK is.
I think you missed the nuance of his post - all Russian tanks can be killed by EVERY AT weapon, easily.
German tanks, OTOH, have a measure of invulnerability against SOME Soviet AT weapons.
For example - the German ATR reliably kills all Soviet tanks out to 100 yards. The PTRD struggles to kill Pz 2s from the front and Pz3’s at any angle from even short range.
This is a major advantage to the Axis side.
Some of it is based in fact - the thin Soviet armour wasn’t much use except against rifle bullets. Some of it is dodgy - the penetration performance of hte PTRD seems lower than historical. Some of it is based on the weapons selected - thinly armoured Soviet tanks vs moderately armoured Axis ones.
And so it adds up to a significant advantage to the Axis in this case.
I think you missed my clear explanation for that IN THE SAME POST
This damage bug has been reported before but has yet to be fixed by Darkflow.
Meanwhile, Soviet players have been complaining about the Pz2 before the PTRD was even a thing (You had PTRS at the time, and the OP BA11)
It did catch that nuance. Each vehicle has its purpose. Sure, Pz3E has more armor than the BT-7. But it goes nowhere near as fast, nor does it have nearly as much filler inside its HE shell.
Same with Pz2. If you both turn the turret 90 degrees so you are hull side to each other, the T-60 has the advantage as it has a higher rate of fire and much more ammo per magazine. It also is smaller and therefore slightly harder to hit.
Sure, the Pz2 can tank stuff frontally decently well, but even then it is nowhere near invincible. And it does have the mentioned tradeoffs above.
German players take advantage of this strength by playing agressively and forcing frontal engagements. Staying a bit back, playing somewhat sneaky, and using alternative routes, you can outplay Pz2s and annihilate them much faster than they would be able to do to you if they were the ones flanking.
