Does the german APC really need to be BR3?

Just think about it,you have the same armament as lower teir tanks (without HEAT shells I might add),the 75 short isnt that good at anti tank,long 50 much better,and you get a lot less shells,and the 7.92 MG42 is one of the worst tank MGs because it just overheats way too fast.and if you are going to use this in the role of a tank you are going to be destroyed by anything with the paper armour that gets penned by anything(even the boys AT),and it is open top.and the armament it has makes it seem like it is supposed to be used in the tank role,so it likely will.hvaing this BR3 means that if the rest of your lineup is BR2,where it should be,you could be fighting IS2s and T34s and jumbos and in the future pershings and all those other high teir tanks.and bringing this in BR3 would take your power down,you could be using a panzer 4 long or a grenade launcher squad or flamethrower.and this allied one is weaker yes,but it can get some german tanks and snipe out their transmission,but where it really shines is the pacific,because there it can pen most jap tanks front on,and you are likely getting a pen marker on this squad (if not,you study jap tank armour and see where it pens).so consider lowering this squad just one BR to where its armament truly lies,not where its goig to be useless half the time

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maybe because it’s an apc, not a tank?

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My opinion is, it should have stayed on BR2. But the reload time of main gun needed to be significantly decreased so it’s not as efficient as its Tank/TDs equivalents.

Kwk37 on BR3 is wasted potential.
Plus it increases the chance of more people with BR3 lineups who immediately quits any high br match. So legit BR2 player are going to be screwed in even harder.

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APC should be used in any BR depending on the type of equipment you take. Like the ammo crate for paratroopers.

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Imo it shouldn’t be APC in the first place.
It should be a rider squad vehicle without the spawn mechanic.

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Well. But why picking it over a F1 or E or N then?
Maybe giving them a different benefit?

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No tank slot but paper thin.

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Still sucks ngl. It would be just toxic camping HE spammer.

Decreasing its fire rate is much better solution.

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Exactly,its worse than everyhing with a short 75 and it has the chance to fight IS2s and T34s

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Maybe. At this point every solution is stupid, just in a different way.

Honestly at this point they need to give you an extra 30% xp if you are upteired because everyone just quits high teir matches and curb stomps T1 and 2 players

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No, just make its APC role prevalent. Mg42 on sdkz 251 has increased overheating in comparison to basically any other MG… And so should be kwk37 have increased reload time on this vehicle.

Its weaponry/armament should have taken just secondary role thanks to artificial balance. Why? Because it’s APC.

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I was thinking of giving “Gunned” APCs the ability to use inf spawns/ spawn closer to the battlefield compared to tanks. Sort of “logistical” advantage.
Because yeah they dont waste tank slots but at the same time they still blow up to a lot.
And three APC campers means 3 less inf in cps (for now).

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It would help their horrendous mobility. Even KT moves faster than APCs.

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Decrease its ammo capacity to something like 4/4/4 would help as well. So it’s not going to be used for pure spam.

Currently it’s something like 10/16/and I don’t remember how many smokes.

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Lol, why should you compare an APC with tank?
You should use the standard of the APC instead of the standard of tank. It is significantly better than other APC, so it should have higher br than them.

Then stop doing such stupid thing? You can say this for any BR3 stuff lol.

This is an APC, its main role is to be mobile rally. If you want firepower you shouldn’t use it.

30mm of pen at 5m, you can basically only pen br1 tank.

Meanwhile other people using unarmed truck on br 5 battle. Why are they not useless?

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Because they’re using it purely for its APC role. Meanwhile this whole problematic is about its kwk37 gun.
And this gun is truly useless on high BR queue. Only good against infantry.

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So what stops player from using it as APC role?

You are just creating non existing problem.

So who force you to use this against vehicle? You can just use it against infantry.

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Potential to exploit as a source for pure HE spam. That’s why I have proposed it to nerf its gun by decreasing its fire rate and maybe even more decrease its ammo capacity.
So its APC role is truly prevalent.

Why? This gun is literally the only reason why so many people wanted to put it on BR3, meanwhile all other vehicles with kwk37 are br2.

Nobody, but it’s wasted potential. :man_shrugging:

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Like this whole game.

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