Do not add Tiger tank to the Japanese

[MR_87]

@khtk395

The stat don’t have too much difference compare the real one.

Bro really seen stg fire?
We got about +50% fire rate in game.

[robihr]

enlisted is so far gone down the line of implementing prototypes/lend lease/captured/foreign weapons that it really doesnt matter if tiger is added to japan or not.

just ask questions here:

• should prototype weapons be in the game?
• should weapons owned by nation be in the game if they were not fielded?
• should captured weapons be in the game?
• should lend lease weapons be in the game?

if you are going to make distinction for tiger, then make that standard apply for every faction and every weapon. japan owned tiger even if it was not fielded, making it no different from most prototypes that never saw battle.

[khtk395]

@MR_87

Bro really seen stg fire?
We got about +50% fire rate in game.

Lol the fire rate of fully upgraded STG44 in game is 650.
The fire rate of real STG44 is 500~600.
I bet you get A for your math.

[Adamnpee]

@robihr

make that standard apply for every faction and every weapon.

What I don’t want is copy paste. If something is already in one tech tree, it shouldn’t be added to another faction’s tech tree.
It deliberately breaks the integrity and uniqueness of each faction.

I really wouldn’t care if both factions produced said item. Or if they just bought it, lend leased it, captured it, whatever…
Copy paste is just meh.

But I don’t mind if the copy paste is event/premium. Because that in itself is a pretty limiting and restrictive factor. It makes those things not so common in the actual game.

But if we are going to push for copy paste in tech trees, then I don’t see any point in having factions in the first place. Let’s just allow everyone to use everything. ultimate balance

[Myrm1don]

@Adamnpee

Let’s just allow everyone to use everything. ultimate balance

…annnnnd im out

[Wayvez]

@CaptainBeel

Because 1. it never happened 2. Japan with Tiger would be OP fantasy. Like I said before might as well give Japan the atomic bomb at that point

1. As stated, it doesn’t matter if the Tiger never made it to the shores of Japan, they still owned it. So, in DF’s eyes the Tiger can be added to Japan. 2.It’s technically not Fantasy if they were actually used on the battlefield by Germany first. 3. Literally only the US created and used the atomic bomb in known history and that was in 1945. The very next nation to successfully create and test nuclear weapons was the Soviets in 1949. So, stop reaching.

@CaptainBeel

I also always objected to Japan (and others) having blueprint late war prototypes that werent even prototypes.

Ive argued Japan should only go to BR IV at most.

And DF has proved that it doesn’t care about if you like the fact that things were blueprints or not, they will make them and put them/sell them in the game. They’ve proved time and again that this game in not 100% historically accurate. So as long as it fit in the time frame of hard cut off May 8, 1945, things will be put in the game.

@Veekay45

Because it matters.

If Japan had signed a contract “we will have a single example of each of your equipment” but just like with the Tiger nothing would have reached the German ports even, that wouldn’t mean “MP-43 and Me 262 are Japanese equipment of WW2”.

German–Japanese industrial co-operation before and during World War II - Wikipedia

There are other cases of military technology interchange. The Ho-Ru SPG with 47 mm AT cannon, resembled the German Hetzer tank destroyer combined with wheel guide pins like the T-34. The heavy tank destroyers Ho-Ri I and II, armed with a 105 mm cannon, seem to have been influenced by German Jagd heavy tanks Elefant and Jagdtiger . The Type 4 Chi-To medium tank, armed with a 75 mm cannon, and the Type 5 Chi-Ri medium tank, armed with 75 or 88 mm cannon, were influenced by the Panther, Tiger I, and Tiger II German tanks. The Type 1 Ho-Ha half-track armoured personnel carrier was similar to the German Sd.Kfz. 251 armoured fighting vehicle.

Japanese Ambassador General Hiroshi Ōshima in the name of Japanese Army bought one example of the Panzerkampfwagen PzKpfw VI Ausf E Tiger I tank with additional equipment.

@MR_87

They could only conquer relatively weak colonial and agricultural countries

So, your calling all this land weak colonial and agricultural countries?

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[robihr]

@Wayvez

So as long as it fit in the time frame of hard cut off May 8, 1945, things will be put in the game.

you mean september 2, 1945? or possibly june 22, 1945?

[Conscript_Joe]

@Valkay

Anything after the war doesn’t count.

Meanwhile, mains requesting IS3…

[Wayvez]

While the writing was on the wall for Japan after the Surrender of Germany in May. Yes, September was the Official end of hostilities in the Pacific from Japan with their surrender.

[ZOMBERWARRIOR15]

@Conscript_Joe

Meanwhile, mains requesting IS3…

Also MAUS and E-series, right?

[Conscript_Joe]

Yep. One absurdity will lead to another and so on…

[Dregomz]

Is-3, Maus, E-100, Ratte, T28/T95 and Jets that’s what some people want. I wonder when are we going to get nazi ufos.

[robihr]

@Dregomz

Ratte

idk what would be the counter for it? nuke?

[Dregomz]

Stolen tech tree Ratte of course

[iso_seppo123]

No joke i think ratte would be very interesting april fools event. It would work like armored train and players would have to defend it using the aa guns and cannons. Attacking team would attack it with planes and tanks

[iso_seppo123]

@Dregomz

Is-3, Maus, E-100, Ratte, T28/T95 and Jets that’s what some people want. I wonder when are we going to get nazi ufos.

New br 6 equipment leaked

[Myrm1don]

@iso_seppo123

New br 6 equipment leaked

Thats one big ass landmine

[Dregomz]

We need them to defeat this American freedombot