I do not share this opinion in game that’s heavily concepted about progress.
I would still rather take G43 to BR5 match than some VG1-2 or idk how it’s called.
And why for example BR4 beretta isn’t useless? It’s obv filler weapon that has to compete against superior weapons.
G43 makes VG1-2 obsolete, FG42 makes G43 obsolete. Obsolete = useless in a lot of cases.
I’d rather eat baby food than starve but it doesn’t make baby food tasty. It’s just all I have at the moment.
I don’t remember every gun in the game.
But there is a huge difference between a weapon being useless and a whole weapon class being useless.
Whatever, you clearly do not understand definition of word useless.
Black & white world.
Nah, I just don’t think a stick is a good weapon only because I don’t have access to a gun.
Well, BR4 semis are nowhere near comparable to a stick. If you think so, you truly suffer on skill issues. And thus proving my first comment.
I have developed great tactics with BA rifle, when I get into bunch of enemy I shot first, then melee another, cycle bolt and shot, melee repeat. I can mow down entire enemy squads this way, while the enemy player probably switches to another soldier again and again with furious.
usually BA rifle squad will die to auto squad only because his AI won’t do shit and the whole result is based on player’s input, which in case full auto weapon has much stronger squad wipe potential.
That’s not the case in lonefighters, in which having a BA rifle isn’t a trouble and in some cases is even advised. Imo in squads it wouldn’t be a problem too once AI would learn how to use their weapon properly with what for were they designed, f.eg. AI with BA rifle should focus more on distant targets and score kills more easily this way, on the other hand auto squad should score kills better in CQC, though I’m sure many players would come complaining that they’re dying from aimbot hackers.
I think the best solution to this would be that AI would target mostly other AIs to not disturb player experience but same time have their strengths and weakness. I’m not satisfied with how things are looking right now at all with gun balance.
Have you ever heard of “metaphor”?
I’m sorry it doesn’t exactly mimic the reality. I’m not a poet or something.
Well, your metaphor is deliberately manipulative, because you are presenting it much more extreme than it actually is.
Stick against gun would be truly useless. Semi rifle vs select fire rifle isn’t. It’s just one BR difference.
It’s not a great one I must admit. I wanted to make the difference significant enough but overdid it.
I’m not a poet as I’ve said.
So no need to buff it then? Just add more BR queues.
Personally, again, I would pick the BR1 MP34 over a G43.
So this “stick” example isn’t even far fetched.
The only semi autos I deem worthy have 20+ magazines - specifically because you spam fire them, which reduces the effect dispersion has on a weapon. That being said, the Mondragon is a BR5 weapon in my mind because of that.
Well a pointy stick could still kill people.
My point is they’re not useless. If you think so, it’s obvious skill issue.
Do they deserve buff? Yes they do. Both things can coexist. But I know it can’t be hard to understand for people who lives in black and white world.
Imo you are just picking on words.
Useless / not worth using, same result.
Well, I would not. I like being able to kill an enemy at mid range without spitting out almost the entire mag. Meanwhile ARs can kill me in 2-3 shots without any difficulty.
But that’s personal preference.
The thread reeks of hypocrisy.
Edit: Do the mods not understand that this comment was pertaining to the discussion these two had?
nah. BA is useful on all ranges even in cqc. just learn to melee. if i have to face squad of 9 soldiers in e.g. sub 30m i would definitely prefer SMG. but if there are 2-3 soldiers BA is equally if not more potent than SMG on those ranges cause of its one hit potential. not to mention in cqc you can use bayonet to melee and can easily kill whole squads.
also not all smg are made equal. some really suck past 20-30m cause of their dispersion and/or recoil and some perform decently on 50m.
so if you give me choice between some low BR smg or BA it would be 50/50 for me depending on the situation (e.g. i prefer BA on pacific over smg). if you give me high performing smg (e.g. mp40, pps43, ppsh41) i would take high performing smg every time.
i would not. g43 is excellent weapon and it definitely has way more use than mp34.
How exactly are Japanese BR2 smgs worse than Mp40, lol?
cause pacific is generally fighting over much longer ranges in most cases than most german/soviet maps. BA is more useful in majority of cases there (although i keep 1 assault squad for short ranges)
I do not share the same opinion. It’s compareble to Moscow/ardennes and some tunisia maps.
You only need weapons for longer distances if you are spawn camping attacking team.
love how the forum has just become a fight over nitpicks.
( edit, guess i shouldn’t be the one talking, but you know 
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