Dispersion only truly effects weapons that aren't Meta

depends on the range and/or number of players you are against. bolties have their own place where they dont lose to smg or outperform it.

At sniping ranges, and spoiler, sniping is useless.

Closing the gap and getting close to 50 Meters is always an option.

I dont know a SMG that performs bad at 50 meters.

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I mean, you can compete BA vs full auto.
But in a squad vs squad scenario, BA player needs to sweat much more to win.

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Skill issue

Skill doesn’t make you hit with having dispersion.

More bullets make you hit with dispersion.

If you have a % chance to hit, the only thing that increases your chance is to shoot more frequently.

Ever tried out the Volkssturm Gewehr? You don’t aim with that thing, you point it to the enemy and press “shoot” as often as you can.


You asked for dispersion buff and damage buff for semis not so long ago. Sounds a bit hypocritical don’t you think?

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Well MGs are definitely not useless, I do use them all the time.

The only reason I currently do not use semis is because there’s no separate queue for them. Thus they can’t compete against rifles with full auto mode.

The only place where to use semis is BR2, and I do so with Japanese. My whole BR2 line up is filled type hei because I just love the weapon.
I don’t use the Italian semi tho. I don’t like it.

And yes, I asked for the buff. Because they’re obv underperforming against other types of weapons of the same BR. But they’re far from being useless.

Useless =//= just not being meta

You mean heavy assault rifles?

If ppl don’t use them, they a useless. Simple as. (Being a filler doesn’t count)
You are just picking on words.

Butthurt responses.

But they do. :man_shrugging: The only reason why I don’t have to play them, is because I already finished all tech trees. And thus I can choose to play only what I truly want. I am not limited in any way.

You asked for more buffs to semis yet it’s GeneralBrus who has the skill issue.
Maybe I’m the butthurt one but you are the hypocrite.

“Those weapons are not useless because ppl can’t replace them with something better yet” like what? :laughing:

Yeah, because asking for a buff is basically the same as saying anything that isn’t meta is useless.

Give me a break, lol.

That’s how progression in lot of f2p games works, deal with it.

And they’re faaaar from being useless. They’re just not meta. :man_shrugging:
Just another proof that you’re living in black & white world. For you, nothing in middle exists.

For me anything that is a filler is useless. SA rifles are a filler before you get SF rifles.
They are ok on low BR though.

So nothing ever will be useless, just not meta.

Yeah, because when I play I either see ppl with low end equipment or high end one, there is nothing in the middle. Maybe one or two guns per match are from “the middle”.

Well, they’re on different BR. So obv they’re worse.

It’s not the problem of weapons, it’s just issue of bad queue policy.
You can say that whole BR4 is useless, because it’s just filler BR before BR5. This doesn’t just apply to semi rifles.
And suddenly the problem is about something else entirely. :man_shrugging:

Your statement even supports my claim, lol.

I agree. But overall performance of the weapon is judged by its performance + the environment it’s used in.
In high BR, SA are just a filler = useless.

Yes. Kind of.

I do not share this opinion in game that’s heavily concepted about progress.
I would still rather take G43 to BR5 match than some VG1-2 or idk how it’s called.

And why for example BR4 beretta isn’t useless? It’s obv filler weapon that has to compete against superior weapons.

G43 makes VG1-2 obsolete, FG42 makes G43 obsolete. Obsolete = useless in a lot of cases.
I’d rather eat baby food than starve but it doesn’t make baby food tasty. It’s just all I have at the moment.

I don’t remember every gun in the game.
But there is a huge difference between a weapon being useless and a whole weapon class being useless.

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Whatever, you clearly do not understand definition of word useless.

Black & white world.

Nah, I just don’t think a stick is a good weapon only because I don’t have access to a gun.

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Well, BR4 semis are nowhere near comparable to a stick. If you think so, you truly suffer on skill issues. And thus proving my first comment.

I have developed great tactics with BA rifle, when I get into bunch of enemy I shot first, then melee another, cycle bolt and shot, melee repeat. I can mow down entire enemy squads this way, while the enemy player probably switches to another soldier again and again with furious.

usually BA rifle squad will die to auto squad only because his AI won’t do shit and the whole result is based on player’s input, which in case full auto weapon has much stronger squad wipe potential.

That’s not the case in lonefighters, in which having a BA rifle isn’t a trouble and in some cases is even advised. Imo in squads it wouldn’t be a problem too once AI would learn how to use their weapon properly with what for were they designed, f.eg. AI with BA rifle should focus more on distant targets and score kills more easily this way, on the other hand auto squad should score kills better in CQC, though I’m sure many players would come complaining that they’re dying from aimbot hackers.

I think the best solution to this would be that AI would target mostly other AIs to not disturb player experience but same time have their strengths and weakness. I’m not satisfied with how things are looking right now at all with gun balance.

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