DF really needs to hire historical consultant - Tunisia selection of vehicles could have been much better

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Hi all,

so the selection of vehicles in Tunisian campaign is again poor and it has really become a constant that DF, from all of the possible vehicles from War Thunder, chooses things that are either obsolete or not logical at all.

Someone who is consulting them on which vehicles to choose for particular campaign is really doing a bad job at it. And he is getting paid for it! Why would you ever choose to include experimental stuff if you have so many high production choices of similar performance?

I will never ever understand this.

A13 - totally obsolete, Crusader II would make more sense in every respective way. It was mass produced and used extensively in Africa. Some examples would probably still serve with Crusader III.

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Re2000 - Italians barely used this plane, just why? Why not C. 200 or G50 that WERE extensively used by Italians and are of similar performance. They even have some limited capability to carry bombs, but if the decision is for fighters not to have bombs, just leave them out.
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FW190A1 - obsolete, even skin is wrong, FW190A5 has historical skin for Tunisia. Take the U version without outer wing guns if firepower is a concern - or why not MC202 here

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C 202EC - EXPERIMENTAL VERSION - just why? Why not FW109A5 here if firepower is a concern. Or why not C 205 that was actually built in some numbers and used?

Then why don’t we have Beretta 38, the normal version. We have it in Moscow but not in Tunisia. It can be dealt the same way as Kar and Pre War Kar.

So many illogical things. It’s like you are picking things on random and not with any thought about it at all.

I could continue but will the practice change? I sincerely doubt it…

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We have classical Beretta M38 in all campaigns except Italian one. :clown_face:

And they are picking thing on random, anotherwise we woudnt ended with TD that has no MG or HE shells vs Tank with MG, and 2 guns!

They already abandoned historical accuracy, they could have given us P26/40 instead of Semovente, then those tanks could actually compete against each another.

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a question that I ask myself is why the gewer41 at lv 24, if the armaguerra.mod39 (lv12) has the same stats and is upgraded more easily? they could also add gewer41 (M) instead of gewer41 (W)(moscow one) if they wanted to add it

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Stg44 on moscow :clown_face:
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Dont forget the class description tehehe.

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The question is why. You can bend it, but you don’t need to break it.

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Missed this :rofl:

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Yeah, that one is great too, like “And there will be onl weapons used in that campaign”

Moscow:
Panzer III B
Mkb 42(H)
And those are just a worse ones.

CoD Vanguard is even worse, lets be honest here. At least models in Enlisted are great and pretty accurate, if we wont talk about reloading actions of lot of guns that are wrong.

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Yeah its nuts right this game is sick but some of the design choices are absolutely wacko. They need to hire competent game designers let alone historical advisors

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well, the A13 it’s just like the PZ III B over moscow.

except at least here, it’s capable to pen things.

but, honestly, i dont see where all those complains comes from.

levels are not final and more things will be added through campaign levels and squad types.

nothing new i’m afraid.

although, a crusader would imply more “”“modern”"" equipment. such as valentines, shermans, and therefore more germans vehicle instead of italian ones.

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tanker 3 probably is german with panzer 4 for axis and american with sherman for allaies

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who knows.

it can be the " semovente " tank hunter seen during Tunisia CBT for what we know

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You usually make good and reasonable comments, but excuse me this one is shajt.

So it is bad when there is wrong Pz3 but it is ok when it is wrong “cruiser”, or to be more exact Crusader tank?

I did my time protesting about Pz III B in Moscow and I remember you doing the same. I still feel it should be replaced with 35T or something similar that was actually used by Germans back in the day.

Crusader is not one, I am specifically talking about mark II which has the same gun as A13. It’s like you are talking about Pz4. Which version?

And what about the planes? All fine? All 3 Axis fighters are wrong for that campaign, even if we stretch it to +/- half year.

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both of tanks are actually bad, but managable.

and despite wanting to change those, you know it ain’t gonna happen.

so this " point " is pretty much invalid.

yeah, and we both can see the results.

ain’t gonna happen as we both know.

it does not matter the weapon, but the armor

crusader 2 ( which on my end, i assumed we were talking about the same thing. perhaps i should have mentioned the " 2 " ) it’s much more survivable compared to the one that we have.

and plus, it’s ““more fitting””

yes, to have somewhat an equal ( and quite frankly, there aren’t any italian versions similar or " better " because past the M13/14 line, that is basically it. you got semoventes that i can think about it but does not match a crusader nor valentines or even shermans since it’s slighlty better for it’s weapon.

although, the further you go with tanks, the obvious it is for introduction of panzer IVs ( f2s, G variants, and PZ III s as well i suppose )

about planes, i don’t know, like, i have all of them ( both italians and english ) in war thunder. but id’ say they did what they could based on what they have, and counting the proes and cons of each airplanes between each other.

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We already have Semovente from CBT, it is still against Grant, balance.

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yeah, but there are other variants of it

( what i meant )

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Nope, this is the one. There is a lot of another Semovente variants, but none were in CBT.

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