Desertion: reduction via carrot rather than by stick

Many community members don’t like deserters. The devs don’t like deserters.

Both for the same reason, this causes imbalanced matches that then cause frustration to the remaining players.

The typical reaction is to demand drastic punishments which i think is kinda lame and dumb. I’ll explain why:

You can divide desertions into two categories:

A. Real-life related

These are things which happen particularly to those of us who are not 17yo neets, but who just have real life obligations. Sometimes you need to go for a good reason - punishment or reward will not change this, punishment will only piss you off.

B. Not fun game experience related

This is the main thing. There are various reasons for this, which are too numerous to itemize but somehow demoralise, annoy or frustrate players. I would like the devs to trial a system which rather incentivizes players to stick around and reduces the experienced annoyance.

Some ideas below:

1.) Finish a streak of 10 completed games to unlock a random daily login reward box. Gives players a concrete task and incentive to not quit matches, with a low theoretical chance to even be rewarded with gold orders.

2.) Frustration source: late connects to a losing game, usually because others quit. Fix: offer a free booster of 50-100% exp to the player you connect late to the match to encourage them to stick around.

3.) Frustration source: i hate this map. Fix: Allow players to select 1-3 disliked maps and take this into account as a soft rule when regulating the map rotation of these players to make sure they are not getting repeated games with hated maps back to back.

4.) Frustration source: i hate this map. Fix: Get player feedback to improve maps / modes with highest desertion rates. Example: Berlin armoured train has lower point yield because capping is not rewarded → reward capping like in any other map.

There are couple of simple ideas on how to potentially reduce the desertion rate without punishments, but rather via rewards and reduction of player frustration.

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  • full-auto abuse
  • flame abuse
  • unequal teams
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That’s not a real thing, it’s just made up hatememe by BA bias. It’s just normal gameplay. BA shouldn’t be prioritized class weapon, deal with it.

Ultra overrated class + it’s not even that versatile.

The only real problem. Matches like 3 vs 7 real players really aren’t fun.

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people circling through 3 assaulter squads is a real thing actually. We’re not whining about SMG for simply existing, it’s just stuff like this which throws the gameplay off IMO

hopefully though this will not be a problem after merge so yeah

agreed

But how is that a problem? You wouldn’t say its problem if they were using 3 engineers squads.
You just can’t accept fact that someone is enjoying playing full auto weapons primarily, especially in game full of bots where you have constantly so many targets to shoot.
This game isn’t competitive, this game isnt LoL or CSGO. I really don’t see why this is problem.
BA lovers just hate it because this game is primaly played in close range (where theirs loved BAs aren’t that good against full autos, so they made up this whole fake drama).
Those type of guys would love to restrict literally everything except BAs. Full auto is problem, planes are problem, tanks are problem, flamethrowers are problem… It’s so fkn annoying.
You should go play HLL instead.

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If you’re going to start limiting everything because of gameplay reasons, you’re going to kill the game because it’s so restrictive! If people want to use full auto in three squad cycles let them, just learn how to deal with it… I fight against FG42s and STG44s in three squad cycles and do fine with a M1 Carbine… The amount of restrictions people want simply so they stop dying is insane…

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Carrots are good for your health, especially the eyes.

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guess i have my ground thoughts about it and i can’t be convinced otherwise so I won’t jump into further discussion

nonetheless hopefully after the merge this would not be a problem and i will be able to enjoy the game how i want and we’ll be all happy

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My guy comes to a forum for a discussion and refuses to elaborate… touché

Hell Let Loose is dogshit full auto spam with bolt actions being utterly worthless and simply a death sentence
On top of nearly minute long respawn times followed by a minute or two of walking between deaths

It has its own absolute fucking aids in it
Please refrain from suggesting it

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it may be looking weird but you see i had a lot of discussions regarding this here and I’m just tired to elaborate.

tldr i just think that restrictions are the essence of the game, if you can spawn the best performing squad over and over again it’s not the best thing for the game. I would never want to restrict a tank or a plane for example bcs you can’t just roll through them constantly.
Rolling with 3 assaulter class in such cqc game is clearly intended way for devs to make money.
you obviously kill more enemies with fast rof weapons since there’s so many bots running around

yes its called gameplay

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:pray: :pray: :pray:

A game only for the snipers.

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I’m almost convinced people are running modded textures for their opponents or on some giga fucked up settings that I’m perfectly and instantly visible while visibility all around of other people is so fucked up

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can’t deny it’s literally spam though

so is pressing the left mouse button, you do it all the time, you need to restrict left mouse button as well.

guess I should never bring this again i just can’t understand how isn’t this an issue to you guys, people doing run and gun hip fire all the time isn’t best experience both immersive and gameplay wise period.

4k monitors, same for squad, ever since they nerfed all scopes to have as much zoom as my enlisted default screen you can’t see anything anymore, unless you have ultra resolution and stick your face right into the bloody screen.

Thats what those game devs don’t realize, you force people to be blind, they will find a way around.

You think it would help if I ran DSR through Nvidia?

Depends if those games are properly made and they let you do post processing( spoiler they are probably not)