Deserters/Quitters

Just finished a losing game of 11 against 10 players where only 3! of the 11 stayed till the end.
Obviously, we had no chance. Enlisted has become a game of pickers. Pick and choose to win.

Yes, everyone has the right to choose how they spend their time however, as with the recent Events contest showed, this trend has now become way, way too frequent. To some extent, knowing the skill level of your opposition has led to this.

There should be some kind of penalty for cowardice in leaving your comrades to an unfair fight.

This trend has become a blight on the game.

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I totally agree with that, the only penalty atm is the 0.7x xp but this is useless when you launch a great game just after. if when you leave a game on your own, you gain no xp, they maybe will no more player who will not leave the game

There are so many bad modes in this game, why can’t players choose to quit

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I think Enlisted devs should do this:

  1. Give bonus exp if player doesnt leave when enemy team have more players (1vs10 = alone guy will got x2,5 or x5 exp).

  2. When player leaves battle he should still have a chance to return back to battle (maybe he wants suicide, but click to exit?).
    When he selects start game then new menu will be appear. This menu contains “return back” and “new game”.
    When player chooses new game he will not got any exp from last match.
    It works only if player leaves when battle is active, but not when round just starts

It will be enough

But would good also add personal map filters and x0.3 exp to next map if player leave round.

Oof
 I’m sorry for my poor and bad English.

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Maybe we just need people who acaly play to bother sticking around. I quit abought 4 games so far cause of usless team. What the hell can a few players do vers a p47 and a p38 as well as a jumbo and what ever tank they bring in.

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yes
My teammates and I decided we didn’t want the rest of our teammates to enjoy the win. You can’t deny that some teammates are not only not good at playing this game, but often use tanks such as m5a1 or M8 to waste the human resources of the US military.
No capturing the point, no building respawn point, and inability to kill enemies, these teammates ruined all my gaming experience.
So anyway, when we’re unhappy, we keep dropping out, do you think we care about those penalties? Playing with these teammates is the biggest punishment.

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I like 1, positive reinforcement rather than creating more salt.

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Dunno about that, i play in a team of 4 and sometimes the map just isn’t fun like the airport on Normandy. So we quit as soon as we enter to make room for other players to join in our place.

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Indeed. Until qutter problem is solved, the only real winners are those who don’t play. The rest are just wasting their time with the quitter roulette.

Current measures are obviously not working and any soft incentives to stay won’t do anything at this point. Just talk to a bunch of quitters and you’ll see why. They either deny that the problem exists or blame everyone around them and say something that amounts to “you can just quit if you don’t like quitters”. The solution can’t be to add more of the problem.

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What if, instead of forcing players to keep participating in an activity they don’t enjoy, they fixed the problems that made people want to quit games in the first place?

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Ouch!
About 2. I forgot to add “only if player leaves when battle is active, but not when round just starts”.

Ye. I’m sorry. Forgot about little detail in message.
I mean add this x0.3 only when player starts new game after that leaves from active battle, but not from start.
Anyways
 I suggest add x0.3 only when we will be able block some maps. Missions filter (like disable
 Day D?).

“What if” there are as many reasons for quitting as there are players, many of them in direct opposition to each other? Post an exhaustive list of those issues with solutions and see where that gets you.

This isn’t an alpha version where anything could possibly change anymore. If you can’t stand the game, I don’t see how the solution to that could be in making it unplayable / worthless for everyone. Even if you only can’t stand XX% of the game, you’re still making it unplayable in those XX% cases.

What’s even worse, you’re creating a chain reaction by quitting, turning it into a self-sustaining phenomenon that can only be ended with harsh punishment for quitting.

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Very well said. If this quitting trend persists it will gradually ruin Enlisted as many players will become disenchanted and leave. New players won’t stay around long enough to gain the experience to become better players and join the Marshals. :thinking:

In a strange sort of irony, game pickers themselves will end up wrecking Enlisted especially as they’ve invested a lot of time and energy in becoming higher skilled players.

Once in, all in no matter what, for the sake of Enlisted. No game goes for very long anyway.

The only excuse for leaving is dying at your keyboard or console.

One doesn’t need to win to be better.

Bad habits, camping, afraid to push w, bad aim and so on won’t make a player better in enlisted.

People that play like “rats” will never improve. So other will rather leave them on their nest than receiving colateral damage from retardation.

I rather leave that type of players and move on, for a better experience for the time I play.

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Just nope. As long as there are no map selection options, there should be no penalty at all. When i load into a map i hate, i instant leave. I am playing to have fun. Why should i do anything i dont like, because i get pun ished if i dont do it?

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Apparently, the only thing that would make quitters stop playing is a functional punishment for quitting. At least that’s the impression I get from talking to them. In the meantime they are making everyone around them either quit matches as well or quit Enlisted altogether.

It should be common courtesy in a multiplayer game to commit to matches you choose to enter, but somehow that thought doesn’t seem to even enter peoples’ minds. One more reason why some functional enforcement is necessary.

Those who quit because of legitimate grievances are making a mistake by doing that anyway. I know this game has many flaws, but by quitting they are only destroying it for everyone (including themselves). Maybe if there was a real punishment for quitting they would have focused their energy on pestering developers so that they’d fix the problems they have with the game.

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Reading through this it seems we dont need to punish quitters but add skillbased matchmaking and/or mission select so we don’t play annoying maps. Y’know like the airport in Normandy or the Manor in Moscow.

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If that’s what people need, that’s what they should be asking for non-stop. Even if these issues are a deal-breaker for them, it’s hardly a rational and justified responce to ruin the game for up to 19 other players in each match they drop out of.

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good idea, really recommend

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