Delusion about free-to-play model

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When full access was announced alongside “The Battle of Stalingrad” there were many discussions about it, and I saw many times how ppl repeat a great mantra: “Only 4 campaigns were promised to be f2p”. I track news about this game since it was announced and can’t remember something like this been told by the devs.
Lets just read what they posted about distribution model:

We have chosen a very unusual distribution scheme at the start of the project - separate paid campaigns with free trial access. Such an approach allows us to implement the battles of WW2 in greater detail. The Battle of Moscow - is not a single map but several fields of battle, accurately equipped soldiers including the weaponry that took part in the battle.
The downside of this approach is that separate paid campaigns may deter players, the very fact of the game being paid for puts some sort of a barrier between us, the developers, and our audience. In order to know your opinion, we used the principle of “open development” and included a question that may considerably affect Enlisted. “Would you like the game to become free-2-play after the end of early access and the CBT period?”
Your replies showed the vast majority (two-thirds) of the audience prefer the free-2-play approach.

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There is nothing about “4 campaigns” but there is “the game become f2p”.
Sooo… Lets just stop spread this “4 campaigns” delusion cause its not true? Unless you have a source where it actually been told by the devs ofc.

And, again, this topic is not about “full access is good or full access is bad”, “should this game be f2p or shouldn’t”. It is about the whole game was promised to be f2p, not only 4 campaigns. Just simple as that.

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Thanks for sharing.
Not that it changes something to defenders of the poor family business.
I screenshotted it, in case it … disappears (wouldn’t be the first critical thread).

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Well you linked one post where they didnt mention it, and then claimed they never did mention it at all. I am not exactly convinced
(Its also worthy of note that the post was made in 2017, when they likely only had 4 campaigns planned)

i am to lazy to go digging right now, but i find it to strange that multiple people here on the forum rembers this being said. Including alot of the regulars

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@47094123 @ErikaKalkbrenner wy dont ask them :+1:? so guys and girl wthat is the truth?

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Op this game never become p2p because mama gajin need money and one time purchase is not enough for her, soon even stalingrad become f2p because of this

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Op question my master

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i see.

well, originally, we knew that there were 4 campaigns. and that those 4 campaigns were free to play.
( according to their own words as the community pool sourced proved that the community wanted a free to play ).

during normandy CBT, a folder called stalingrad appeared in the files, but nothing up until a few months ago has been confirmed.

which, to answer to OP, all those people that claim " only 4 campaigns free to play " are, wrong.
because we had a conversation similar back then, but it was regarding the base game which was supposed to be moscow, with additional dlcs that would have been campaign such as normandy, tunisia, and berlin that you had to pay, in chase the free to play model failed. but were speculations.

but once again, people aimed for the free to play aspect. so that’s what we got.

up until stalingrad, where devs they claimed that they taken in consideration the other option to make a campaign base on feedback of people that wanted to pay for entire campaigns.

both sides are correct.

as stalingrad is unexpected despite people defending it.

what OP mentioned in the gray paragrah, can be easely retraced it through old way back machine thingy. when the first site was announced.

so yeah, he is right. :slight_smile:

devs never said that. so future campaign might be still free to play.

as from what i see, stalingrad is not perceived very well from everyone.

i personally like it, but dislike it at the same time despite i bought it. but i digress.

i hope, and believe so.

it could have been handled much easier.

if you want to speed your way up, and also get premium squads, pay the full acess and you get the tank, decal, camo and 4booster.

weather all the free to play one would have to grind like regular campaigns without getting resitrected of equipment…

but again, i do not want to derail the topic.

i’ll let that to @114857834 ( since he is the professional one here about that ).
( just kidding, i just found funny your description ).

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My description is based on my ban massage :sunglasses:

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ah…

that’s…

C R I N G E .

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Damn,
Forum mommy called me cringe

Guess i will go commit fg 42

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nooo

not you :joy:

he will hunt you

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Still, there’s no definition of what kind of free access is F2P. Giving players demo version is F2P, giving players entire game is also F2P. They still has lots of room with F2P model.

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when they likely only had 4 campaigns planned

They never planned only 4 campaigns. Actually, this is from the same news post:

The poll-winning goals - “The Battle of Stalingrad” and controllable vehicles will remain are the goals of our development now.

Yep, in 2017 Stalingrad was on the list already.

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stalingrad won a poll for which campaigns the community wanted. but i guess they figured it was to similar to moscow or something, because they kind of just pushed it aside and proceded to not mention it at all for a few years.

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here it is. have no idea which statement they are referring to here, but this is atleast what i could find in the official Tunisia announcement news post (close to the top)

(i’ll just ping @ErikaKalkbrenner aswell just in case she has something to say)

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As far as I know, nothing in CAT or CBT indicated current monetization development.

People who claim that 4 F2P campaigns + paid campaigns was a plan from the very beginning might refer to FAQ on CAT Enlisted webpage that explored options that were originally planned before it was decided that game will follow F2P model. Whether this exactly was one of the discussed and refused option due to the F2P vote, is something that I don´t remember clearly, and I´m too lazy to search for it in wayback machine atm.
Since that, nothing at all was said about it. Maybe they were undecided back then, maybe it was planned without telling anybody, maybe it is just a plan they resurected because their little Scam-access CBT was received with negativity on every single campaign release.
Hard to tell, but I personally believe the last option as it perfectly fits their monetization approach so far (two steps forward, one step back).

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But they didn’t promise “full free access to all four campaigns”, they said the game will have f2p model AND they knew there will be more than 4 campaigns in time they were saying it. But yeah, now I see where ppl could get this idea.

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Why does everyone care so much? For Stalingrad access money you get an endless premium for it. That’s not a bad thing, is it?
I’m just not sure that with the buy-to-play model the developers will be motivated to introduce something new to the campaign (maps, modes, levels). Because no one will be able to buy it twice.
Campaigns will only be relevant for a while (seasons), until the next one comes out, since the previous one will not be supported.
Good or bad it’s up to everyone to decide.

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