Dark Force, do the right thing and change the FNAB-43 to it's real specs

[SmallebigE]

You can see for yourself rn go to the veteran box go to weapons find the PPS-42 click on it and you’ll see the stats

The current models we have are glitched they never bothered to fix it so now all models we get in the future is just a reskinned PPS-42

So that’s the issue even in the chat where I shown this issue

Dark Force, do the right thing and change the FNAB-43 to it's real specs

[image] That’s the older models so people that been playing for a long time would have it And I played for a while but I also have the new PPS-42 red where it say it has 6.7 Here [image] So all new PPS reds we’ll be getting from now on is gonna have that damage model

I didn’t say they existed or not you can see I have the 6.9 model ones but issue new players that haven’t done the old anniversary events will never get these

Also yes plus shown by the other dudes thing shown that it’s not 690 it’s really 837 rpm that would easily put it up in br3 with the beretta M38A 40 rnd
And if it’s moved up too 690 rpm it would still be br3 so were back to the issue of the fact you got a br3-4 smg in a position of early game Germany

The mental gymnastics for you to say “No It WoN’T EfFeCt Br” is purely fantasy

You can continue coping seething or whatever you do with your life but it’s not gonna happen

[Dregomz]

Yes when you have same rof and recoil is already bad on Mp40 it’s a big difference. Lanchester and first M1A1 have similar stats but M1A1 always feels worse since it has slightly worse recoil stats and dispersion. You can easily feel it while shooting

[Dregomz]

Then it’s niche is staying in a trash. It belongs to BR1 with 400rof. It’s never used by anyone but real newbies or two fans of that gun with delayed recoil added on.

We need late FNAB-43 1944 variant with 550 rof

[SmallebigE]

We already have that

[Dregomz]

@SmallebigE

We already have that

We don’t we have FNAB-43 with base 400 rof (delayed recoil) and turns into pitiful 460 after upgrade, while 550 version without that recoil limiting thing was not added, Enlisted guns always start with claimed realistic values and slap +15% rof with upgrade on all of them. So 550rof would turn into 632rof

[Luvs2spooge]

I would be happy for them to upgrade the FNAB to 600 base and 690 maxed. This would put it in the realm of accuracy without over buffing it. When playing Soviets, I preferred the PPS-42 over the 43 because of less recoil, so bringing the FNAB up to 42 standards would for me be just fine and still keep it within level two standards. Yeah, I know the PPS Red had a tad bit higher hitting power over the maxed PPS42, and I would use the TT PPS 42 hit power and not the Red’s.

[GetOut0fMyWay]

agree.

and here is also a vid showing the FNAB with high ROF:

FNAB-43 : full automatic shooting (with slow motion)

→ so DF, now you know what you have to do. And I really hope that you will increase the ROF “soon™”.

[Mortarion_Death]

@Luvs2spooge

I just want the weapons as historically accurate as possible

I still don’t understand why they think that the FNAB fires 800 rounds per minute.
You only have a video of some guy and his article on his own website, which the English Wikipedia links to.
But why is this historically accurate?

[Luvs2spooge]

I have only found I think one thing searching that says the FNAB shot at 480, which DF uses for the maxed FNAB, and several that indicate it shot between 600-837. So, which is correct? Probably both are correct.

The problem Gaijin has is that they use the top numbers on some guns, and the lowest on others. When I say historically accurate I mean they should use the numbers from the MOST COMMON model used during the war. So, if the MP 40’s “most common” model shot 550, that is what it should shoot in the game. Experimental numbers IMOP are not the real numbers. My guess is that a certain model of the FNAB shot 400 and I assume a model that shot 837, but my guess is that most shot somewhere between those two numbers.

It wouldn’t do any harm to raise it to the bottom number that it appears to have shot, and that is 600. PPS-42 starts at 600, and once maxed shoots 690, which is what I would think the FNAB should be set at. I have never called for the FNAB to be set at 800, I first said 700, but then thought a maxed version of 690 would probably be fine because it falls in between the 600-837 numbers given, and pretty much equals it out with the PPS-42.

With my luck with Gaijin, this whole issue is most likely DOA the moment I requested it. They like taking my money, but not my suggestions, so they really should change this, but like with everything else I request, I’m not holding my breath.

This is the quick search I made just before answering this, and yes, it is a Wikipedia sourced answer. Still, I would most likely NOT make this the game FNAB’s rate of fire, I would still set it’s max probably at 690. However, “IF”, and I say “IF” this is 100% accurate that the most common model shot 837, then in my belief that the game should use the MOST COMMON model’s statistics, then it should be set at 837.

[Mortarion_Death]

Don’t get me wrong, maybe there is a mistake in the documents. But not 2 times. There is only one video that talks about 837 rounds per minute. But the same person says that he was shooting with not quite the right cartridges, and the gun itself is most likely assembled from several other guns. Probably not original in my opinion.

[Luvs2spooge]

I don’t know anything about the video, I only know what it shows with google when you search it. I did see the video posted, but I am not going by that. If you type in a search, what is the most common rate of fire for the FNAB-43, you will get 600-837. Of course, this is what I get below when I research the ROF for the PPS42 and 43. Are any of these accurate? I can’t say, but with the FNAB I have found more articles saying it was 600 or higher, and only one that says it was 400, or two if you count the one I posted where it did mention the claim that the FNAB was 400.


I’m no gun expert, and IDK what is actually accurate and what is not, my guess is that the FNAB is under buffed, while the PPS43 is over buffed.

[Mortarion_Death]

@Luvs2spooge

I don’t know anything about the video

Despite claims of this allowing for a slow firing cyclic rate of 400 rounds per minute,[1][2] when tested, provides a cyclic rate of 837 rounds per minute.[3] This live firing example was provided with modern 9x19 parabellum ammunition, so it is most likely that the cyclic rate that was see in World War II is slightly lower.[3]

this video.

Dark Force, do the right thing and change the FNAB-43 to it's real specs

agree. and here is also a vid showing the FNAB with high ROF: [FNAB-43 : full automatic shooting (with slow motion)] → so DF, now you know what you have to do. And I really hope that you will increase the ROF “soon™”.

The same person as in the video.

The Italian FNAB-43 submachine gun – LAI Publications

So forgive my skepticism.