Dark Force, do the right thing and change the FNAB-43 to it's real specs

That one was a glitch smg tho and a event gun which not everyone have if you used idk Russias new smg you got and argument

Also that wouldn’t be br3 level and it still doesn’t excuse a fucking tier two smg being a br4 gun and which probably be moved up to said br

Their beretta M38A 40 rnd was moved down the br3 and the M1 beretta+38/42 was moved down too br2 which literally has the same performance as the MP-38 but a 40 rnd mag

And it’s a TT item but no it’s somehow worse bc… reason
The only argument is the uragan which is comparable to drum roll the ZK-383 and the other gun the Thompson 7.65 which I was saying it was a br3 gun since it was announced

And also the KP-26 also got moved down to br2 and the MP-35 (event) is br2 both are menaces in in that br

What glitch smg what are you talking about? And mate PPS-42 red is the same gun so don’t twist his argument.

irrelevant gun as it’s worse than ZK-383, can’t compete with PPSh-41 box or Thompsons need a buff and Germany needs Suomi or some other smg with high rof

Yeah and it sucks as it has huge vertical recoil and unrealistic stats and can’t compete vs PPS-42/43 and especially not vs Uragan
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So where is DF’s historical accuracy? Yeah it doesn’t exist. Let’s buff soviets

i told you the 100 reasons and not just you but many people but you don’t want to listen

great that you wanted it to be a BR3 weapon shame that Dark gaijin has different opinion and put it at BR2

KP-26 is great but i have only one copy and VMP was not moved to BR2 which is just sad. MP-35 is awful as it has insane added recoil you can’t hit anything after 20m all of that just because you wanted 50 more rof which is still not even close to pps-42 level and Uragan just spraying 32 bullets at you and your squad while having even better accuracy despite shooting much much faster. :joy:

PPS red is actually quite OP, because it has higher damage than regular PPS and kills with two shots.

But its an event gun so Its fair I guess…

Recoil… RECOIL omg that speaks in it self these guns have less recoil than your argument

Also PPS 42 red stats


The PPS-42 that guy used is from a older model where the devs fucked up big time they some reason didn’t change the stats on those but now all Pps reds you get now has 6.7

Or use Euthy chart for stuff like this
Literally as a person that plays Germany too they have some great stuff but I use the stuff I preach and the M1 and M38/42 has no recoil

The VMP 1926 is quite literally the Beretta M38A 40 rnd with more recoil but it’s practically non existent ether you just horrifyingly suck and controlling any type of recoil or you actually have no idea what you’re say and is coping


That’s the older models so people that been playing for a long time would have it
And I played for a while but I also have the new PPS-42 red where it say it has 6.7

Here


So all new PPS reds we’ll be getting from now on is gonna have that damage model

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Also so you’re saying you want the M1 and 38/42 to have a lower rof so you can cope further about nerfs

Great but who cares when it’s now fixed and has normal dmg? Stats are now the same. I don’t care about some tale long time ago i care about present and future and it’s looking grim for BR2 Germany while BR3 is fully playable.

Great stuff aka what? Only old gold order weapons and nothing else. Wow such amazing country totally worth playing. Nope mate M1 and M38/42 are even worse than MP40 as their recoil is just atrocious.

Reading comprehension mate, i never said VMP has a bad recoil it’s fine i only complained about beretta and showed you stats above that gun is awful with bad vertical recoil andrecoil control + recoil direction to the side + awful visual recoil of 1.6 that gun is just unplayable (need a buff)_ and also needs real stats as those invented by gaijin are a lie


Btw here are stats of Suomi and VMP they are about the same with Suomi being better so why VMP is at BR3?

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So comparing recoil of 8-11 which highest difference is 3 that’s literally nothing bro you’re actually just coping beyond this reality

Also I didn’t say the VMP is the same as the KP-36 also again the recoil on then aren’t that bad which again a cope of terrible recoil
And try to manipulate the deta which wow with Gaijin lie is funny

I said the VMP is the beretta M38A 40 rnd with a bit more recoil which poor process reading on ur part

There are no point in talking to you anymore you are in your little delusional world full of biased opinions.

mate go check it for yourself Enlisted Resource - Google Spreadsheets

It’s a raw data provided by Enlisted helped you don’t need to claim that i’m a liar as i only want to see objective truth and you just want to manipulate things in your favour.

No point in talking to you bc in that same same text is shown that the highest recoil difference is barely any and in fact the beretta M38/42 is far better than the MP 40 with almost no changes to recoil

Tho I had fun getting a laugh

Also again ignore I said VmP 1926 is the M38a 40 rnd which again poor reading on ur part AGAIN

ALSO again I said MP-38 not 40 which bro how?

In what world is 11/3 recoil atrocious? That’s so low it’s basically non-existent.

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That is 40% more recoil so it is something.

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Yeah but the recoil is not that bad it’s far more controllable vs the Kirlay

i recall a helper saying the fnab has a super low ROF on purpose to give it a unique niche, so i think darkflow wants the fnab to stay as it is

The FNAB is one of my favourite BRII SMGs. Higher RoF would be feckin awesome.

I guess it would be on par with the Beretta M1, which is also a feckin awesome BRII SMG.

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Check the stats of the PPS Red and TT PPS-42 maxed and I don’t think there is much difference. I used the PPS Red solely because it was the ONLY PPS-42 I have in stock that is 3* maxed, as I sold off the rest when I bought the Uragan, because it seems superior to all the other Soviet level two smg’s.

To be honest, I don’t know what gun you’re talking about, because I see you arguing with someone else and might be about a different smg, however if you think setting the FNAB to it’s correct rate of fire numbers should push it to a tier four level, then you have to send the PPS-42, PPS-43 and the Uragan all to tier four as well. Why would a maxed FNAB 43 set to PPS-42 numbers at 690 ROF warrant a tier increase, when most, “if not ALL” Soviet tier one and tier two smg’s shoot faster then that?

Simply, put the specs of the FNAB and the PPS-42 side by side, and if you raise the FNAB to the same ROF, they damn near are identical weapons. :rofl: So, why would you think one should be tier four and not the other?

Dark Force doing the right thing resetting the FNAB 43 to it’s correct rate of fire settings IS NOT going to change the balance of smg power in level two, it just rectifies a mistake Dark Force did when rating this weapon.

I love the FNAB, but hate getting wasted because I can’t fill the enemy with lead as fast as he can fill me. And since it appears that DF used the lowest rate of fire that it could find, when the vast majority of research I can see rated it’s ROF much higher I don’t feel bad asking for it to be raised, and I would be happy with 600 base and 690 maxed, which puts it in line with the PPS-42, however, since the research says 600-837 DF has some room and could put it anywhere there, if they chose to change the specs.

I would personally just change the ROF to 600 base and 690 maxed, and leave the recoil, despersion and mag size the same. If they raised it to 800 I would imagine DF would also raise the recoil rate. I used the PPS-42 over the PPS-43 because I liked the lower recoil

You can see for yourself rn go to the veteran box go to weapons find the PPS-42 click on it and you’ll see the stats

The current models we have are glitched they never bothered to fix it so now all models we get in the future is just a reskinned PPS-42

So that’s the issue even in the chat where I shown this issue

I didn’t say they existed or not you can see I have the 6.9 model ones but issue new players that haven’t done the old anniversary events will never get these

Also yes plus shown by the other dudes thing shown that it’s not 690 it’s really 837 rpm that would easily put it up in br3 with the beretta M38A 40 rnd
And if it’s moved up too 690 rpm it would still be br3 so were back to the issue of the fact you got a br3-4 smg in a position of early game Germany

The mental gymnastics for you to say “No It WoN’T EfFeCt Br” is purely fantasy

You can continue coping seething or whatever you do with your life but it’s not gonna happen

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