Sorry, I just wanted CW in Enlisted since I moved over from WarThunder.
I didn’t want to start a bottomless discussion
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I think you are answered the problem yourself, just dont see it.
Basically a lot of people that play this game competitively zerg rush the forum or reddit to like a post overnight. Meanwhile most Enlisted players play this game for fun and care not about playing competitively.
In fact I dont even understand why on earth would anyone want to play a game competitively in which 80% of your enemies are bots. As a Heroes and Generals veteran that used to roll with the finest Axis clans and I still not see why playing in a clan would be beneficial for anyone other than stomping any random battle the game may throw you in.
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We don’t make suggestions to balance the game towards our own competitive environments. We make in-house rules to do that. What we have done that I can remember
- The Open Letter, a significant portion of which was included in the Road Map. This also got near to 470 signatures, the most of any Enlisted movement to date and extended far beyond clans, with 47% of signees identifying as casual players. There were rebalance requests, but also movements to significantly enhance player QOL.
- Load tested custom servers and mass-supported an enhancement to custom server stability, which was implemented and is a great success
- Requested a spectator mode for custom games
- Asking for greater compensation for these repeated BP delays
So I’m not sure what this Zerg rush you’re talking about is, and our united movements are not a frequent occurrence. Does not being a casual player warrant us not being entitled to garner support for our opinions? Casual players could do the exact same thing we do if they were really passionate about it. If we were going to almost every forum post as a group and jumping in on every thread, then yeah I could see the issue. But we aren’t.
In fact I dont even understand why on earth would anyone want to play a game competitively in which 80% of your enemies are bots
As I said before, this could be said about most games. “Why would anyone want to play WOT/Arma/Squad/Minecraft/etc competitively? If there’s PvP in a game, there’s always going to be an element that wants to be more competitive. Doesn’t matter what game it is.
The clan versus games we have played internally are a night-and-day difference between pub matches. They’re awesome in how the game plays out.
Clans add a framework for a social system. Social systems improve communication and help players meet and stick with new people. Improved communication and groups help other players with gameplay.
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They dont exactly exclude each other. Both can exist simultaneously.
Sure, I agree to that extend that I dont really expect this to be next CS or even have intrest towards “serious” competition.
But that again, doesnt mean other people cant do so.
Exact same could be said about HNG, the average players werent any better than the bots of enlisted.
But due to completely different matching system, you could atleast find those chokepoint games with team / friends and have a somewhat competent games against decent enemies.
Ideally, with such as clan mode / comp mode / what ever mode, we could limit the squad size to 2.
Rofl stomping with friends or as clan is just as ridiculous.
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Can’t you just make a custom server and invite people manually? Why should the developers who can’t even follow through on their promises of a thirty day season be wasting time on something you can do yourself. This game will never have a comp scene, too many variables brought about due to the AI squad mechanics. Do you realize how many features we are currently lacking for a game that is a multiplayer shooter in 2024?
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Well, build your own servers then. There is no reason that DF has to go out of their way to make some sorta goofy ahh comp mode with no real application. I’d say that the devs should implement more features for custom servers but the idea that there needs to be a developer sponsored comp mode is naive and over-estimating your importance within the Enlisted community.
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Where did I say that DF is required to make a competitive game mode? I know reading comprehension is hard for you (especially given that you’ve been removed from so many community discords for not being able to comprehend their rules)
I said they need to add frameworks of a social system, because social systems help the game grow and enhance the player experience. It would be cool for them to have competitive stuff but I certainly don’t expect it.
The only social system this game needs to allow chat in game. We can’t talk to enemies and only PC players can communicate in a match with each other. No one cares who you repping.
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We need chat system in menu.
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you need to have a profile picture of her with that name XD
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For real. It’s wild that you can’t chat in lobby after 4+ years of dev time.
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I agree with what some have already said. and here are some observations from my side:
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Clan warfare can be done perfectly as Enlisted currently provides, using password protected (or not) custom maps.
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It makes no sense for a Clan to take a single side and expect Enlisted to find enemies for the other side as cannon fodder to feed them
Nor is it a good way to implement restrictions for those who play in clans, it is an absurd additional complexity that would cause more problems than solutions. -
If a clan wants to play on one side against another group of casual players, they should create a custom map and publish the challenge to invite all those who want it (I doubt they will have much success and it is reasonable, no good player will randomly join other casual group of players to face an organized clan, unless they like torturing themselves
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I just wish Enlisted had a naming scheme that allows you to have the clan Tag without having to change the name (like other games have, for example ETQW “Enemy Territory Quake Wars”).
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If you have played world of tank blitz before, their tournament system is quite good.
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I think in game chat or proximity chat would be a good thing. For Console users to interact also.
We already have game chat it just console that can’t see it
They have cross play they should be cross communication. The setting is their just dosent work with chat. Works with voice only.
It pretty simple beeing away from more than 3 meters away from your screen is normal for console player so reading the chat would be almost impossible and that prevant you to see all the toxicity against consoloid
Not for me lol 
Im right at the screen maybe 1 meter not even. Also we can make that writing text on screen small or enlarged. It would be easy for them to do it.