Choroszmanów submachine gun BR4 axis smg

Why? Germany has tons of guns from other nations already so why draw the line here?

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So we can have good performing gun where they are supposed be? I tell you Berretta 38/42 is identically as the the beretta M1 but is BR3 because it need fill the spot, gun should have their place imo, honestly German smg TT progression need be reworked is a mess currently

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Are you kidding me? Germany has literally 0 tech tree assaulter BR4 weapons. There’s just some Italian smg, nothing else.
I want German BR4 SMG.

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Beretta 38 was used by Germany and even Italians fighting in German units.
100% historically accurate.

The thing is, 28, 35, 38 and 39 are all war spoils from the September campaign, captured from surrendered troops. 28 and 35 have extensive documentation about their use by the Axis troops, 38 was, in accordance to Maroszek’s testimony, used by Warsaw garrison, while 39 is more of a “could have happened, maybe happened”. Conversely, Pm C was used by partisans, and as such it would more probably be used by “friendly” troops, i.e. Soviets.

I couldn’t care less. I want German smg. HA argument is not an argument.

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I can see a BR4 smg for axis and a damn good one for sure. Laser accuracy, decent rof and sexy af.
MKb42 H/W should go down to BR4 too. These guns are useless in BR5 and a good gap between the smg’s and the late war equipment (it would make sense in a historical point of view too when introduced late 42/early 43 for troop trials).

Well do you have any weapon suggestions in that case? Also adding polish smg doesnt mean that they couldnt add any german smg. Why not both?

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Let’s settle on the KP44 And lowering the kirkaly from BR V to BR IV. I’d say it’s a start.

I am too lazy to google up some random German smg.

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Understandable

Not correct and all stats.

Germany is out of mass produced SMGs, sure you can find a prototype but why add prototype when you could add mass produced SMGs from other nations?
I would really love a 50 round Finnish Suomi for BR4.

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I can help you on that but again I do blieve what Valkey said is right that if we move MKB42s down a BR it would solve everything otherwise there are a few German SMGs that we can fit in BR 4 but Iso_Seppe123 is also right that we have had a lot of none-german weapons why stop now also last checked it was called Axis not Grmany so Axis includes Hungarian , Germany ,Italy and other nations
But here
1- Schwarzlose submachine gun
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This was a project between autro-hungarian empire and German empire during WW1 but it was costly so both empires decided to do their own thing Germany went on to make MP-18 and Autro-Hungarians tried to use Italian Villar Perosa make a Styer machine pistol (It has 80 round IINM and fires 9*19 mm and it feeds using strips of 10 round )

2- Mauser MKB


3- Walther MKB
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these MKBs are from early 1930s German army was experimenting a lot with idea of rifle that can fire cartridge which are not full rifle sized and from the images im guesing Walther model was 25 round and Mauser’s is 20 it could be good BR4 weapon also they could make their damage same as Federov but then that would put them in BR 5
4-Walther MP1918 with disk mags which have 50 to 75 round in them
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Beside these there are VMP models ,too but those at max can get 40 round besides they dont fire fast enough so they would at best be BR 3

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Call me weird but I’d rather not have some ridiculously buffed, failed ww1 prototypes as nearly the best weapons in a ww2 game.
(cough cough fedorov)

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I think it would be cool to have a few more world war I pieces of equipment. Not just for Germany but for all factions.

But when we’re looking at world war I equipment we’d have to be much more selective on what’s going to be best for the game You don’t need something that’s overly buffed or something that’s really weak.

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