Chi Se tank

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History of the Chi-Se
Very little is known about the Chi-Se. The very limited information comes from a Maru magazine published in 2011. The (roughly translated) Japanese Wikipedia article (which is more or less fully based on that source) states the following:

"The prototype medium tank Chi-Se was a planned medium tank by the Imperial Japanese Army during World War II as a successor to the Type 5 Chi-Ri medium tank.

The purpose of this is likely to be to maintain the design ability of engineers and the development and research environment. (The translation of this is weird; probably refers to using existing components to ease the development process of the vehicle?).

The main research points of the project was a new type of suspension (not specified) and a 10.5 cm gun on a fully rotating turret in a chassis similar to the Chi-Ri medium tank. However, the details are unknown."

Designed very late in WW2, the Chi-Se was almost certainly never built, and the development was most likely halted due to WW2 ending in 1945. It is entirely possible that the project was so early in development that no blueprints or even sketches were made, and if they did, they were lost/destroyed, as it is the case with many WW2 era Japanese documents. As such, we will almost certainly never know what the Chi-Se truly looked like, and all the designs you see of it are speculation.

What is known about the Chi-Se is the following:

A new type of suspension as opposed to traditional bell-crank suspension used in almost every WW2 Japanese tank design. This was already experimented during the development of the Chi-Ri with multiple types of suspensions; it is likely that the Chi-Se would’ve utilized one of these.

A 10.5 cm AT gun in a fully rotating turret. The choice of armament was most likely the same 10.5 cm gun designed for the Ho-Ri tank destroyers.

A chassis similar to the Chi-Ri medium tank. Due to this, it is also likely many of the other components would’ve been shared with the Chi-Ri, resulting in a large tank weighting at least 40 tons, possibly significantly more.

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Japan needs more variety at BR5 in their tech tree. The only option is the Ho-Ri because the Chi-Ri with flat 75mm armor isn’t gonna cut it at BR5

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so not even a paper tank

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i meant paper of the era, ms paint does not count

they exist a few attempts and rest it’s about how it would look, but better than nothing lol

You talk as if the panther P and the tiger aren’t in the game XD

Oh come on bro seriously, as if in Enlisted and War Thunder there are paper models, don’t be a crybaby, as if there were no models in other factions.

KTP is a very real vehicle, with multiple made and used in action?

In fact you can view it still today.

I assume your talking about the Panther F here, unlike the KTP, this didnt really hit production, however it was at least produced in the form of 3(?) hulls and turrets, so certainly more strenuous, still though, a physically produced vehicle, and not just a wooden mockup.

There is more than a couple rarer vehicles in game with similarly sparse careers, however apart from the Japanese, I dont think there is any other purely theoretical vehicles.

I will say despite that, if there must be more tanks added for Japan, I would rather something like this over the likes of the “Heavy Tank No.6”, aka the jap tiger.

Seriously though, like fuck Imperial Japan, fuckers make my stomach turn just reading about their actions, and then have the gall to not even attempt to build cool shit by the war end so us autists have to argue over what could likely be an otaku’s attempt at dreaming up a wunderwaffe and trying to pass it off as authentic. Couldnt they have stopped raping children for like 10 minutes to leave some actual designs behind. Hell they surely would have gotten off even lighter than they did if they had just passed on a few more documents. Sorry rant over, tldr there is that two werent enough.

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So That’s a prototype base on another prototype
There’s not even a finished Type 5 Chi-Ri
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There is no any evaluation about how you fit 105mm gun at that time was left
What’s the turret design, turning at what speed, how the elevation?
We gonna create those stats by imagination?

This is just as fake as E-100

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In enlisted not war thunder, besides the two well known br5 Japan tanks what tanks are paper

so one more doesnt really make any differency.

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yes yes it does its not needed us has one tech tree br5 tank

and plenty in other BR’s so whats your point ?
Anime boys has the least of equipment in theyr TT, while its actually the reason I like the anime boys, not needing to grind thru countless duplicates, still another decent tank with actual turret would be fine.

what other paper tanks in enlisted not warthunder
paper = existed as schematic or less = fake
prototype = built but did not enter production = real

ho-ri comes first in my mind.

And 0 fks given as we are way past that.

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It depends. Let’s see, I just looked for and half-copied the information from Chi-Se, which was about the Chris Ri. Although taking into account that Japan implemented these weapons late or that out of laziness they never included them, only the plans remain, and they are enough to make it clear that it did exist. Besides, do you want me to talk about the American T34 and other variants, which also never made it past the prototype stage, or did they remain as plans? What about the various planes and tanks that are still in WT? If we’re going to talk or fight about what’s real or not in a video game, it’s the stupidest thing I’ve read. And about the Japanese Tiger, stop crying Americans; there were real plans for the Tiger, and even if it sounds bad, something is something. Japan wasn’t thinking about its ground forces, and this could easily be in the game. (about the Chinese, leave the fucking past, more than 80 or 100 years passed since the Pacific, and yes I understand your pain and loss for the atrocities of Japan, but the past is past. They are the most powerful economy in the world and Japan, well … I do not want to mention its current state) apart from the USA they have the best tank like the Sherman and variants that wherever they want kill a Japanese tank, the Pershing and its other variant while we have the Ho-Ni in decent form and tanks that cannot penetrate them from the front, except with a machine gun or from the side

Unfortunately for us, Japan didn’t think any further. I mean, ¿were they really late to adopting the Army to appease the Navy and Air Force? It’s sad to think they could have put aside their egos and stupid fights; they could have done something. But, well, that’s why they lost… not because of the nuclear bombs, but because of their excessive egos and their unethical practices, such as messing with America without considering the consequences.