Cheater or just very good with recoil?

Was playing Battle of Moscow in Birch Grove East (Invasion) and everything went well on the first 4-5 min.

Then I noticed that a player were shooting like a solid beam on every player/bot I saw, and it was with Sniper MKb 42, Kiraly 39m and mg 34.

idk if it is a cheater or a very good player.

Will leave the replay if anyone is interested and the player in question is the top player on axis team.
replay nr 219953671889604413

i will not any comment on particular player cause i havent seen the replay, but considering weapons i would say it is good veteran player. those weapons have low recoil and can be easily controlled with experience and perks.

considering that i havent seen replay (or even scoreboard) he could also be blatant cheater. if he has less than 150-200 kills in 20 minute game it is probably just good veteran player.

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the player in question had 250 kills on a 21 min match, and we had maybe 25-30% in the match was bots.

am not very familiar with axis guns so that’s why am asking :+1:

Either way, OP gains 1000 bonus points for entering the forum and opening this thread as a REASONABLE DOUBT of cheating, which implies he’s got decent knowledge of how the game actually works. Respect.

(Contrarily to the usual random dude that strides in yelling and calling cheats left and right because yes no matter what.)

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This appears to fall within the “strongly sus but not totally impossible” range.

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I played a match some months ago, some dude in my team got ~450 kills. He played as a tanker and the enemy team was full of bots. Pure botfarming match…

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its not like am trying to yell rigged or just want to try to get a player banned if he outplayed me.

its just that match was really strange that a single player just single handedly won the match XD

well i can easily get 100-150 kills in 20 minute game with just infantry guns and without top end build in moscow and i dont consider myself high skilled player. with vehicles, shit enemy team, shit allied team and top end build i could probably easily get 200+ kills. high skilled player could possibly get even more than that.

this would really need someone checking replay to see how he played and if it was reasonable.

just watch the replay yourself and check the recoil of mg34 and kiraly, both can only be bursted, not sprayed without losing control.
check this guide out to spot aimbot users Spotting Cheating in FPS Games - Cheater Exorcism Guide - YouTube

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the player was mostly on foot and used plane once or twice, but since since the match consisted of 25-30% bots then he may prioritized them? idk

watched the vid and some points that you made align with the player in question, but also he may just had a very good match and I were just unlucky to be part of it. XD

btw subbed looks like good content you are making :+1:

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checked half replay and checked bot count. your match had 75% of bots (not including normal bots in your squad).

your team had 5 players (2 somewhat decent you and the guy that quit midway), so after that guy quit you were having 4 human players (3 of which were shit) and 6 bots and enemy had 1 human player and 9 bots.

your team didnt build rally points, something that is vital for victory, while that player built rally points. he had good bot control and had them mostly hidden while he went and killed your team bots with one soldier at the time. he was mostly flanking and your teammates were ignoring them. he used cover that made your team bots ignore him. he used low recoil guns (wasnt even aiming something special) but cause most of your team was ignoring him he had bot shooting gallery.

overall not cheater, just good veteran player that knows game mechanics.

btw you can check bots here Bot names - Google Spreadsheets

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That’s why I unironically praise your post, because unfortunately most of similar threads are that way.

its good to see other points of view then just keeping to my own :+1:

am not good nor bad at the game but I play this game time to time and seen some players who are very good at the game.

but this player just stand out for me XD and I just don’t want to complain and make a fool of myself :sweat_smile:

thx for seeing the replay and give your take :+1:

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Its perfectly plausible, a veteran with many hours in the campaign can easily pull of such feats.


its from Stalingrad, the enemy team had many bots/newbies and my team was also retarded so I went full try hard to try to compensate for that.
Anyway, the older veterans could show you even more impressive scores, its not cheat.

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when you have bot shooting gallery and your team is not competing with you for kills is easy to get high score. one time got 150 kills with one soldier with SA gun cause i used cover to de-aggro enemy bots and had ammo box near me. if i had smg or AR i could have easily gotten over 300 kills.

if you want to win i suggest you start building rally points and try to flank and destroy enemy rally points. you will see your win rate climb steeply.

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That’s true.

For comparison, this is my 2nd best outcome ever (1st one was 270, but by heavily abusing pre-bomb nerf Ju188 on Airfield defense):

This admittedly involved some bot farming with tanks, and even more clueless bot farming inside cap points (for some reason, I kept rushing into rooms that were choke-full of bots, yet they regularly failed to kill me before I mowed them all down with SMG or semiauto).

Also, I guess you could count actual human players in both teams on a single hand, there.

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This is most probably a daft question but, how do you use the replay number to view the match? I can’t see anywhere to use it on the replay screen :upside_down_face:

just download every replay