Change the deserter penalty

We’re never going to stop all desertion, some people just refuse to play on a losing team no matter what. However, by ridding the game of some of the obvious reasons people desert is a start.

Rank, w/l % and solo players encountering stacked groups cause a lot of the desertions, and those would be easy to deal with by ending the rank system, ending the win loss percentage and allowing solo players to play other solo players only. That would be three things that would be very easy for the Dev’s to implement. However, like I said, nothing is going to stop it all, but you have to start somewhere, and the obvious would be a good starting point. Then, re-evaluate the results and go from there. Otherwise, we are just going to continue chasing our tails. :joy:

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and how is preventing said people from joining another match to ruin more than 1 match is a bad thing?

5 mins lock or something.

i don’t see how it’s a bad thing.
again wt has it.

i think it’s challenging having to appease to every sort of nitpicks of people.

and i’m sorry, but if you quit because you cannot stand a single map, or bad teams for one or two matches, i don’t think the game is at a fault.

after all, you do have plenty of options.

even though i am a solo player, you can always group up if you do not like the current situation.

can’t disagree there.

although, we asked for these many times, and they have more or less failed to deliver.
and god’s know when or how, if ever.

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All of which speaks for not caring.
But I guess as long as it is entertaining for you, why not.

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i have made longer answers for much less if that amuses you.

but all just to set the record straight :ok_hand:

although, ask your self this;
do penalties affect custom matches and mods?
answer is, no.

some people can see reasons even if doesn’t benefit or directly affects them.
not a crazy concept to grasp if you ask me :wink:

it’s like saying that it is impossible for an individual who asks/suggests free slots for f2p. because apparently there has to be ulterior motives or self interest even if it doesn’t benefit that said individual.

a bad team is not problem, but map of course its problem. even if i have a bad teammate and only me to make rally point as long as it moscow it will motivate me to carry those bad team, but if its already bad team + map that i hate, then where is the fun?

the fun is in to turn around the situation.
and letting the baddies have a rough time too.

perhaps could be considered " destructive " behavior and fun can be subjective. but usually there’s a reward and a challenge.

otherwise, you’re not really there to play.

how convenient to leave rofl stomp matches when it’s done to your team, but completely fine to do and stays in the match when it’s the opposite and done to the enemy.

how am i gonna turn the table if its not the map that i like? by just looking at the loading map screen that i hate, my mind already want to desert and not want to play, and like i said even if i have a bad team and not rofl stomp enemy team, as long as it moscow i will not leave.

That’s a difficult when we lost 50% of the 2nd objective before I managed to spawn my 2nd squad after the first one was whipped out within 10s from the start.
Now excuse me, I need to build a sandcastle in the backline while waiting for the match to end.

i refuse to believe that in 5 points of a map it’s not possible to either:
( well… ugh. assuming it’s an invasion. but the same applies to any other gamemode. you literally have rally points. the easiest tool to win most situations even if teams are bad )

and that’s coming from an average player:

  • attack it from the flanks while placing a rally

  • find one of said 5 points to lock down

and yes. it was difficult to do when penalties weren’t a thing.
and technically even now considering that aren’t really that big of a deal.

but i guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.

Dude (dudess? is there even a female form?), in such matches objectives fall before I finish building a rally. There is nothing my sorry noob ass can do to turn the tables around.
Best thing I can do is to move away from the front of a lawnmower.

its not about the strategy its about the map, if im not get moscow map, my mind already tell me to leave because i know iam not having fun there even if my team pro i will leave. i play enlisted because of moscow map. so other map will make me leave. and thats the reason i love old theater of war because i can play in moscow

part of the challenge is to bond with strangers and overcome such adversities

and again, nothing wrong to team up with others.
at least, as of yet.

jeez aren’t you a " stuck in the past " individual.

campaigns aren’t even a thing anymore.

and purpously playing this game just to sabotage others because the world doesn’t cave to your own necessities is purely vile.

if anything, customs are there for ya.

So teamplay? In enlisted?
Stop drinking, sober up and then come back.

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enlisted unironically does not reward teamplay.

but rally points are the golden (somewhat) understood rule.

and… again,

what? im not forcing people. i just suggesting that map selection will be good and it will maybe kinda solve the problem with people deserting, than if they add selection map than penalties deserting is okay

The objective have already fallen by the time you’ve finished building.

It’s wrong when it’s mandatory. It’s no Squad nor HLL, playing solo shouldn’t be a misery.

and yeah you right i still stuck in the past, i still miss beauty of old theater of war

perhaps a bit of extremist argument, but if everyone would start leaving because of X or Y we wouldn’t have a game to frikkin play.

and what you described, is to ask for only to play on moscow.

like if that’s even possible to do post merge.
( well, you can by playing customs. but point is, you aren’t the only one player existing and / or playing this game. it is not feasable to just play 1 campaign out of 6 for a set of maps. which you’re effectively leaving in the :poop: other players that they didn’t asked for an extreamist that only wants to play moscow )

i’m sorry, but most games are a misery when playing solo.

there aren’t perfect games where other groups are hard separated.
not even in Wt.

( which… effectively has became a metric now :joy: :skull: given how many things are similar. and we are closely approaching )

you people are only convincing me that desertion is a serious issue.
and might actually bring me towards the edge of making me invested just to prove common sense apparently.

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i mean.

am i wrong?

have you seen my loadouts too ?
i’m basically almost gifting victories to my enemies by using historical loadouts.
yet always manages to win and lose here and there.

making the best with the situation at hand.