With the upcoming update soon we will be able to use the ancient “Change Soldier Call Sign Orders” to change our soldiers’ nationality. That means you change your soldiers between American and British and German and Italian vice versa. This is actually a bad idea
You will be able to change any soldier in any squad’s nationality at will, meaning you will be able to create monstrosities and tarnish history. We’re supposed to be playing as units that literally fought in the war. There should be at least some shreds of integrity. Even my own standards aren’t too strict but this is just ridiculous and pushing the line.
101st Airborne Division “Screaming Eagles” on the eve of D-Day, Enlisted German 352nd Infantry Division, defending Normandy coast 1944, Enlisted
Britain and Italy have long been shafted. Many have asked for Britain and Italy to be their own independent factions, but that may not be for a long time. I can settle with Britain and Italy being sub factions, for now for the foreseeable future, but it’s about time we actually have a true solution to this issue; and having soldiers in any squad morph their nationality and disregard the actual history and nationality of these units is not the answer
Add ALL squad types and classes for Britain and Italy in the Research Tree. If you want British or Italian soldiers they should be in British and Italian squads where they belong. If you want to use a British Riflemen squad then you should be able to unlock that squad
Eventually Britain and Italy should have completely independent lines in the Research Tree. They can still be under the Allies and Axis faction, but separating their content allows Britain and Italy to be fully fleshed out as sub factions (until the day they are truly independent)
Like with many things with this update its good that the devs are taking a few steps back as some of their decisions are just absurd. So before this update drops let’s fix and prevent another issue before it starts
No, its not a terrible idea cuz then everyone can play that nation in a country waht he wants, exemple there is one who wants playing in german Italians because he is from Italy so he can “Enlist” Italian soldiers.
And the other thing is they can easily add new country voices in this way too what fought with the german army meaning for the others too of course
Well, since it is just a video game and means nothing on the worldwide stage I think it’s fine if people want to change their nationalities. I took my Chinese Thompson squad, gave them all English names and tried to find the most western looking faces I could find. I even changed the language to English. I had given details on another post about this, and although one dude did seem a little pissed about it, he doesn’t have to play it since it’s on my computer. Anyway, that is probably the more extreme of the nationality changes, however I am sure there would be a lot of people who would love to change their Allied squads to British, Canadian or Australian, or German squads to Italian and if it makes their game experience better then I am all for it.
Most of my my squads have a 40/60 split on nationality, so I would use the orders to make them all uniform (all Italians in an Italian squad, all Germans in a German squad, all British in a British squad, and all Americans in an American squad). It just adds authenticity, and cures my OCD for Germans using Carcanos and Americans using Lee Enfields.
This feature is much welcome. I will be eventually able to recruit Italian soldiers for my Italian squads, and create a full Italian lineup, which is impossible up to now.
there were italians in normandy but that’s another story XD
Prisoners captured by the English in the Sword Beach sector on the morning of 6 June 1944. Several of them are Italian
A long line of German prisoners captured after the surrender of Cherbourg in the summer of 1944, is escorted by American soldiers. Among them an Italian
A group of German prisoners captured in Normandy, disembark from a train at Kempon Park station in England.Among them an Italian with a coat, cap and stars on his lapel.
If you don’t care about historical accuracy (Me), do it to make funny line ups.
If you give a shit about historical accuracy, you do not have to do it or do it to retain consistency with in line ups.
Yeah only you’ll be making a squad that is based on an American unit British or a German squad Italian and vice versa.
My point is that if you actually want to play as Italians they should be in an Italian squad where they belong
That is true that we only have a few piecemeal British and Italian squads. For example my British Engineer squad is filled with Americans because you can’t have a British Engineer.
Yes “C-N” will fix issues in this case but it will still lead to even more disasters
The game may not be 101% historically accurate but it should at least have a few smidgens of integrity
Having actual British and Italian squads with British and Italian soldiers is better than having America’s First Infantry Division that fought in Africa, Italy, and Europe actually be a bunch of Brits
The best solution is just to have all squads and classes for Britain and Italy. There is no British Riflemen squad in the RT, therefore if you wanted one you’d have to turn an American division, with its historic identity, into Brits
Yes you right with the squad, the German soldiers in German squad and Italian in Italian squad i see that in a same way but that little think isn’t a problem when it is mxed a bit
like if historical accuracy was something in enlisted to begin with.
and that’s the cool thing.
if you want, you can attempt to recreate some historical units.
if not, you don’t have to.
saying that change nationality is a terrible idea is insane.
but as others suggested already, ( and like you partially did )
adding more squads for example, pre merge legacy should be the way to go With.
yes to squads, no to classes.
nobody needs the shop being cluttered by italians and german soldiers ( or uk and us ) when you can just buy the soldier you need and then change it’s nationality through the upcoming system.
It’s not like the unit that the squad belongs is super important in game. It is just an image and name on the menu, in battle nobody is gonna know whether you use British soldier in US squad or not.
This is already the case… just take this example :
The allies and axis MG gunner I squad are British and Italian. MG squad can only take at most 6 specialists. Which means that you will always be stuck with at least 1 rifleman. And guess what ? There is no way to get British or Italian riflemen as of now…
I can get behind this for sure, but lets be honest, this is not happening anytime soon. So I will gladly take the devs proposal instead if keeping the current situation.
The game doesn’t need to be 101% HA in all areas. I don’t mind prototypes and experiments or BR forces me to see King Tigers in Stalingrad
But just having British squads with British soldiers and Italian squads with Italian soldiers is the bare minimum
I don’t envision there being double the soldiers. Soldiers would be “blank” and they become the nationality of the squad they’re put in.
All squads/ classes is more attainable right now than the ultimate goal of Britain and Italy being fully separated from their parent line if not becoming their own independent faction
British rifle in the RT? Add a British squad attached to it. Very simple
the only bare minimum id say would be to avoid japanese soldiers storming d-day or germans defending guaralcanal against other germans.
i think that’s the bare minimum most people would come to expect, outside customs.
it’s fine there.
i guess it doesn’t favor me to say that i for once, would like the idea of ragtags units of mixed nationality…
perhaps some mixed DAK and italian units in NA.
or, kinda like the ostruppens / Hiwis.
which did existed and language was an actual issue to those units.
that’s also the other issue.
there’s 0 reasons to separate italy and britain.
they would struggle severly towards the latter tiers.
hence, they can simply coexist as sub factions within the main one.
US and germany.
because as much you like ONLY italian/german or US / Commonwealth units,
it can be simply fixed by allowing squads to be brought “back” and add the missing ones.
this would severely temper with those like me who likes to have mixed squads.
italian AND germans. US AND Commonwealth units.
which i would have no way of being able to do because of some selfish individual who apparenty doesn’t comprehend how balance works.
if people now deserts for a stupid map, i can’t imagine that said person having some nerves and stay when half of his team it’s made out of italians.
( fyi, i don’t care about other people. they could larp as volkssturm / reggio esercito for all i care EVEN at br V but I, am not the majority of the people nor entirely play this game on my own. )
meaning for the others too of course
Anyway, that is probably the more extreme of the nationality changes, however I am sure there would be a lot of people who would love to change their Allied squads to British, Canadian or Australian, or German squads to Italian and if it makes their game experience better then I am all for it.
