Some weapons outperform their counterparts, though there is a decent asymmetrical balance on most factions now. But some weapons just feel plain awful.
I would like to see the damage increased 5-10% on most of the low RoF SMG’s. They are barely useful in their close quarter role currently, as people tank multiple hits and retaliate. Especially the German early tier SMG’s on Berlin are horrible. Damage like a slap, rate of fire like a sowing machine. On Normandy, at least, both sides suffer.
I would also like the starter bolt action rifles to be more accurate by default, as these are the “training” rifles for newbies, and missing many shots due to random dispersion can teach the wrong lessons & give a bad experience. Currently they feel dodgy. Their drawbacks should be weighted towards poorer handling (slower reload/aiming/etc) instead of reduced accuracy.
I would also like the starter bolt action rifles to be more accurate by default, as these are the “training” rifles for newbies, and missing many shots due to random dispersion can teach the wrong lessons & give a bad experience.
I’ve never experienced this and I’ve played quite a bit on Berlin. The starter rifle is perfectly accurate if you take the time to use ironsights and line up the shot. Now, a shotgun? I would agree with you in terms of RNG dispersion. But for a bolt action? One of the best things about them is their mechanical reliability rather than relying on something like dispersion RNG. When using the Berlin bolt action rifles for the Axis I have literally never missed a shot that I aimed properly. Maybe when hipfiring, but aiming down the sights? Nada. They can feel a bit off if your coming from Moscow or Normandy, but it’s not an RNG problem. I also don’t agree with the idea of “training” rifles. The basic bolt actions feel fine, and I’ve never felt gimped when using them. A Kar98 will kill someone in a single shot from a good distance away, and it snipes SMG users just fine. Their inherent accuracy, which is quite good, isn’t the problem. It’s getting used to the sights and player skill.
And in terms of balance, the Germans get better later in the campaign. We used to have the STG44 to line up with the Russian SMG in terms of progression in Berlin ages ago in testing, but I haven’t seen hide nor hair of it since. A shame, since it was an awesome gun.
All bolt actions are very accurate…
You can further help accuracy by using the shift key (can be resigned) while aiming, your guy will hold his breath.
I’m shooting a lot on the move, which might account for it - Usually kneel down to take aim and fire. This problem disappeared for me when I started upgrading the rifles, so I assumed it had to do with dispersion.
Kar 98k kriegsmodel is perfectly fine all bolt-action are one hit kill, is berlin the worst place for use them all the map are cqc focused
German smg on berlin are fine same problem with bolt-action german smg are made for medium-long range soviet smg are totally cqc and berlin map are cqc
On normandy all smg are fine is the only campaign wen the smg are perfectly balanced
I like mobility too. What I do is run around like normal. However, when you see an enemy quickly stop, quickly bring up the ironsights, line up, and shoot, then quickly get out of the sights to regain movement speed, strafe side to side to avoid enemy fire. Repeat the process and spaz out like crazy, but always stop moving and bring up the iron sights to aim when your going to take down an enemy. If you get in the groove of doing that every single time, then you can get faster. I’ve gotten to the point where I charge full steam ahead, quickly aim, fire, get out of the sights, and if your on target you’ll nail your target every time. You can kill an entire squad of people with a basic Kar98 in a few seconds if you do this, and you won’t die. Unless you run into an actual player who’s onto you, because the way you’ll move will become very obvious to anyone not a bot if your slaughtering pathetic bots like no tomorrow. Just remember the key is being accurate and fast. You need to find your sweet spot. Run, aim, fire, lower sights, strafe, repeat.
I’m regularly top of the board and I’m rocking bolt actions 95% of the time. Bolt actions can be one of the best weapons in the game until you make it to a good semi-auto, and if you get good at snap shooting with them and landing headshots at any distance - even in close quarters, you’ll be a absolute god. Semi-autos are incredibly deadly in CQC as long as you keep cool and don’t miss your target, even if he’s toting a fancy SMG.
And if you find when your snap shooting, your bullets land beside your target rather than on it, try lowering your mouse sensitivity a bit. You would think it wouldn’t make much of a difference, but it worked wonders for my division mate.
Pardon the big post, I haven’t had breakfast or coffee yet.
My issue isn’t with performance, or bolt actions, but specifically with the unupgraded starter ones. They have less accuracy than other bolt actions, which causes them to miss in some scenarios where you have done all this correctly.
I get the feeling people think I’m an annoyed newbie. I’m not. This is only an issue for me when starting a new campaign, after maxing out another. I also consistently get score lead using infantry, and double the second guy if I mix in tanks or planes. My concern is new players being stat nerfed in silly ways (such as their weapons not being able to hit).
The dispersion is highly noticeable when switching between higher tier/upgraded rifles and beginner ones. I am not the crazy one for thinking this, I have tested it in practice mode with every faction after reading peoples’ posts here.
The weapon upgrades improve these exact stats, as their descriptions say. I get a strong impression people just aren’t accurate enough to notice it, which I guess makes it a nonissue. No wonder I’m winning!
Hm, I’ll have to test the starter rifles on the practice field. What kind of ranges are you fighting at? I tend to play close up and personal, so dispersion might not be as noticeable to me as someone fighting at longer range.
I was shooting at ranges between 50-200 meters, really should have made a proper spread with screenshots for this post. I might make that tomorrow.
My engagement ranges in actual battle tend to be quite long with bolt actions - Around 100m or slightly more. For bolt action infantry squads, I send my soldiers ahead, and pick off enemies who shoot at them as they charge. Rifles definitely seem reliable enough up close.
I don’t disagree, the game has a lot of depth, and lacks a lot of explanation. Some of the tooltips are bad as well, not always sure what I’m purchasing when I get something.
