The German Premium Guerilla Captured PPS and research tree PPSh 41 Obrez is chambered for the 7.62 Tokarev. This makes sense as you would be able to capture enemy ammunition. However Germany used the 7.63 Mauser to feed many captured Soviet submachine guns as the 7.62 Tokarev was a literal copy of the Mauser. It’s easier for your logistics when you’re using your own ammunition than counting on the odd and occasional capture of enemy munitions.
The classic Stalingrad campaign Mp 717r is a captured PPSh chambered in 7.63 Mauser.
When it comes to “capture content” I feel a faction should only get said content if they did something, anything to make it stand out as unique. Otherwise we might as well have Americans running around with Stgs and Germans with M1 Garands. If you want your enemy’s gun go hunt it down yourself. But if it’s unique it’s yours. This simple rechamber is perfect in my book
The Captured PPS 43 and PPSh 41 Obrez should be changed to 7.63 Mauser. This is a very very small, easy, and simple change, but it’s neat for immersion. It’s the the thought that counts
Well yes, but the PPsh-41 in 9mm is already an event weapon that will probably not be added to the tech tree. At least this one is fairly unique because it is quite modified from the original design.
guerillas should use tokarev cause they were in enemy territory where it was easier to source tokarev munition rather than mauser.
german ppsh 41 chambered for 9mm(or mp41r) required extensive modification for it to use 9mm ammunition. they didnt just use regular ppsh41 and put 9mm mag in it.
That is technically true but we have to look at the context. Germany didn’t really have any partisans in the same sense as France, Yugoslavia, and all throughout the Eastern Front. Those were all people resisting occupation behind enemy lines.
But these German guerillas are Volkssturm who were fighting on the frontline. No sneaking, sabotage, guerilla warfare, nothing. There’s no enemy territory to resist in because the fight is on Germany’s doorstep at this point in the war. ( Of coarse in game they happen to be guerilla class but I’m talking about the historical unit they represent)
I don’t know how accurate the German PPSh Obrez is. I don’t know where the devs get their sources or if they just said hey let’s just give Germany this gun
Like I said I’d prefer capture content to be a little bit unique
well if they were active behind enemy lines, then it is normal to use enemy supplies. if they were not active behind enemy lines, then VS shouldnt have been chosen as guerilla units.
well then it is shit decision from DF to take them as guerilla units. they should have taken commandos and similar special op units as guerilla units…
Guerilla is wrong term in general. US and Japanese units are not even guerillas as they are military units. The Volkssturm never did any (meaningful) behind-enemy-line operations. Only Soviet units apply to this term.
“Guerilla” is just a catch-all for pretty much any unit that would be fighting behind enemy lines. Commandos, partisans, raiders, recon, etc. Guerilla may not be perfect but it’s the only good name they could have. We can’t call them commandos because not every unit is special forces and we can’t call them partisans because not every unit is civilian resistance fighters
