be great to see overall stats like most games have, overall kills, assists etc etc
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I donāt think games are often ruined by seeing just those stats
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These statistics would ruin the game and would be viewed badly by players who do not play the game or are novices.
An example of this is several online games where you can read these statistics.
Yes, because in all other games stats have always improved the quality of the game and not caused any toxic behavior.
Not No but ā¦ &%$# No
sure, it would be neat
itās not a game that makes statistics better, because everyone then looks at the stats and plays like an idiot
No danger, people already play like idiots (fighting in the open, not using the trenches, not pushing, ā¦)
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newbiesā¦ 
why would they be ruined? lol like every FPS has a career stat trackerā¦ Iām not even taking about leader boards, but i would say that would be good, at least something of your own profile
Iām coming from WoT PC where XVM is the worst most toxic thing of that gameās existence. To the point WG gave players the option to anonymize themselves in game. Iām sure it started as a good idea, but what it evolved into is one of the most toxic stat trackers around. No one wants to get stat bashed in team chat, nor do players enjoy seeing people drop or suicide because they donāt like the stats of the team they are put on. Even Battlefield 4, when there years ago on console, I saw numerous times players stat bashing other players in the forums for not having āacceptableā stats. Itās much simpler to not open this Pandoraās Box, as there will always be trolls.
clear I understand, I also played a lot of WOT PC where I knew XVM a lot although I was not a target but other players ātomatoesā were the biggest ridicule and no one wanted to play with them and it ruined the game
Yes, for example, the total number of battles would be interesting, but I donāt think itās a good choice to do it, because any seasoned player who gets a little annoyed would be so upset that any player with bad stats would be embarrassed and trampled and a bunch of players would go to another game
Quoting you for reference. This would be another issue with just showing only games played and such. Seasoned players getting annoyed that they get out played by a ālowerā player. Again experience in WoT, I had a tier 10 game playing the T-100 on Himmelsdorf. Not exactly a LT friendly map, but as a LT main I made the best of it. Iām also not one of those players that spams gold and runs full premium loads, other than an auto extinguisher. An E-100 player seriously over extended, into our red line, going after one of our TDs. This gave me an opportunity to circle of death him, which I easily did in a LT. Coming from a time when you were told to learn weak ares I fired on his flanks and rear with standard ammo giving him a trip to his garage in no time. I being the ālessorā player, even though Iām a green WN8 but much less games played, using only standard ammo I had to be hacking and cheating, and I got messages in that regard sent to me with my birth and sexuality questioned, even though I run a completely vanilla game. I can take it being older and as a LT main we get talked down to at times for not yolo rushing the red team so a red line camping TD in the back can get his 2 shots off. I also see hackusations as an award. Other players who are softer, for lack of a better term, might not be. So for those that want this, again lets not and keep this game as friendly as we can.
Just donāt make stats public - personal viewing only. It would be great to have some numbers to look at.
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Yeah, this, lol.
I think stats in games can be useful for self improvement, I track my progress in world of warships and world of tanks (games that are probably famously toxic for stat padding and player toxicity lol) to see whether Iām improving or not. I take it with a grain of salt though, my winrates tank during special events, 5x weekends, etc. And with 4,000 games in WOT of SUCKING, Iām pretty much permanently marked with a bad overall winrate. The winrate for the day and week is what I usually look at. And I take it with a grain of salt with others as well. I play better now despite an overall bad winrate on record, so I donāt really judge other players right off the bat if they have a couple thousand games and a bad winrate, often players like that show some real skillā¦ Not to mention WOT and WOWs are so pay to win now, itās hard to break 52-55% without being a whale of some kind, no matter how good a player you are. And taken to the extreme, hyperfocussing on improving one stat like winrate can lead people to being seal clubbers, who play one OP low tier tank all day killing new players.
And it is useful for tracking player progress. What matters is if you rub it in peopleās faces like an A-hole, or actually try to use it as a tool to help yourself or other players. About the closest I ever got to rubbing it in that I can remember, I actually wanted to help this guy get better at the game, and he wanted to argue with me instead. I remember torpedoing a battleship that decided to sail straight down the channel on the two brothers map in world of warships (if youāre not a WOWs playerā¦ this is a bad move), and we got into a heated argument over whether or not that was a bad move. Basically I straight up told him after in the chat that it was so bad a move, that I wanted to tell him just for his future reference, so he could do better than that next time, and explained why taking battleships down that channel is a bad idea. Instead he argued with me, with the dumbest excuses I ever heard ofā¦ Stuff like āI did good because I took fire away from the rest of my teamāā¦ I was likeā¦ Bro, you barely moved out of spawn, did zero damage, and cost your team a battleship early in the game in one torpedo run, you literally handed the enemy team points and a free kill, in an area where I couldnāt fire on anybody BUT you, WHAT FIRE ARE YOU DRAWING AWAY FROM OTHERS?.. After the game, I checked his statsā¦ This poor kid had only a handful of games, and a 13% winrate.
I pointed it out to him because he was so new, I doubt he even knew he had publicly available stats, and I was just likeā¦ Broā¦ What Iām saying is that you need to learn this game. Watch your stats, an average player who has no affect on the outcome of a game will have about a 48% winrateā¦ Yours is 13%ā¦ That means you are playing SO BADLY, that you are essentially ensuring your ENTIRE TEAM has an 87% chance of losing. Like, Iām not making s!@# up that youāre a bad player, these are the numbers to prove it. Iām a CBT player, and while Iām not amazing at the game, I manage 54%, so the least you could do is take some advice on game play mechanics from a player whoās been around longer, and move on, rather than argue about your performance in a game youāve had all of 20 games in, likeā¦ Iām not saying this to be a d@#$, Iām saying this so you can get better, people give tips to help youā¦ Yeah nah, he wasnāt interested in actually learning the game. Iād even invited him to squad up if he was interested, and he just got butthurt I pointed out his stats.
ā¦ So yeah, players will be dumb and mindless whether thereās stats or not. Personally, Iād like stats to know how well Iām doing and where I can improve. And you know what, as toxic as it may seem, sometimes especially bad players donāt really know theyāre causing their own team problems till it gets pointed out. I donāt think a reality check is always a ātoxicā thing. Like, this one game, the same 1 or 2 players kept spawning in the same spawn, running across the same field, to attack the same control point the same way over and over again, while I just sat and MGād them in that field for half an hour from a tankā¦ Something tells me that guy doesnāt really get the best winrateā¦ Maybe if he had stats to look at, heād realize heās not really getting the best winrate, and maybe the problem is him, instead of going to the forums to piss and moan until tanks get beat to death with the nerf bat. And sometimes thatās what it takes for a player to actually take a step back and take an interest in getting better at a game. Stats donāt care about bias. I had an AWFUL like 46% winrate in WOT, and did exactly that, pissed and moaned on the forumsā¦ And people pointed it out likeā¦ Yeah man, youāre the problem, if your winrate is like that, the game is fine, youāre just an actively bad player. This one guy was like, you know man, Iām not saying this to be a d@#$, but you are really bad, and if you want to fix these issues youāre having, you should go watch WOT gameplay from Jingles or Quickybaby, and youāll learn the game mechancis inside and out. Then your winrate will go up, and you wont be dealing with like half of what youāre complaining about. Best piece of adivce I ever got. I went from floundering in that toxic a#$ game for 4,000 games with no improvement to show for it, to actually learning how to play, and making demonstrable improvement.
Basically, stats are just a tool. Players will be both braindead idiots, and toxic gatekeepers whether that tool exists or not. Whether that tool is used well or not is up to the player. Personally, Iād like to have it, if only because Iām interested in tracking my own progress.
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Iāve had moments where Iāve gotten really outplayed or outsmarted in WOT or WT, and checked their stats afterwards to see they were really subpar players per their stats.
Personally, I love seeing that, then Iām just like, wow, this guyās learning. Itās kind of like rooting for an underdog, youād expect a play like that from a unicum, not from a guy with a 48% winrate.
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I like that idea