Buffing Tanks - Indirectly

Anti Tank Weapons need to be rebalanced… they tend to be too strong for the BR they sit at

BR I
Boys ATR – Allies
PTRD-41 – USSR
PzB-38 – Germany
PzB-39 – Germany
Nagoya ATR – Japan (not in game yet)

BR II
Winchester Williams ATR – Allies (not in game yet)
Sturmpistole – Germany
PTRS-41 – USSR
Type 97 AT – Japan

BR III
M1 Bazooka – Allies
PIAT – Allies
GrB-39 - Germany
M1 Bazooka – USSR
Type 4 Rocket Launcher – Japan
Type 5 Rocket Launcher – Japan

BR IV
M9 Bazooka – Allies
Panzerfaust 60 – Germany
Panzerfaust 60 – USSR
M9 Bazooka – Japan

BR V
Ofenrohr – Allies
Ofenrohr – Germany
Panzerfaust 100 – Germany
Panzerfaust 100 – USSR
Ofenrohr – Japan
Ji-Te Dan – Japan (Not in game yet)

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Let’s be honest…
Nobody needs 200mm penetration at BR III with Panzerfaust 60
You potentially meet BR 1 tanks, at BR II tanks have like 35-50mm armour and at BR 3 tanks have less than 100mm armour. Heck… Panzerfaust 60 at BR III claps BR V tanks from the front
Give the poor tanks a fighting chance

M9 bazooka at BR III has 125mm penetration which is less than Panzerfaust 60 but it has far better velocity and range. Much easier to aim and hit with where you want. There’s not a single BR III tank that has enough armour to stop it from the front and it’s super low risk for the infantry using it to score kills from a distance meaning tanks have no fighting back chance. There’s only few BR IV tanks with enough armour to prevent it from penetrating their front.

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180mm with perfect angle which you will almost never get unless you shoot almost point blank.

BR3 also meets BR4 which has tanks with stronger armor. cats have ~100mm armor, jumbo has ~180mm turret+100mm sloped hull, shermans have ~90mm effective armor frontally for both hull and turret. etc.
their best AT weapon on BR2 has 90mm penetration at perfect angle, so they need AT weapon that can reliably penetrate BR3 tanks(so over 90mm) and have a chance at penetrating most BR4 tanks. idk of any other AT rocket launcher for germany that would be in the middle of grb-39 and panzerfaust 60. well maybe panzerfause 30, but it had ~30m range so it is kinda pointless for the game.

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To penetrate Jumbo frontal hull armour you just need over 150mm of penetration

Panzerfaust at BR III frontally claps M26 and jumbo frontal armour which are BR IV-V tanks respectively

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Tbh honest with you…
Type 4 rocket launcher, Type 5 rocket launcher, M1 Bazooka are sufficient to make Shermans cry.
You don’t need a Panzerfaust 60 at same BR as M4A1 cast armour Sherman…

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Launchers should have longer reload time, normally two people were required to use one. Im tired of bazooka snipers destroying tanks before anyone can even react

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I do think that specifically Panzerfaust 60 is overkill for BR3, and should be replaced with Panzerfaust 30.

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germans only alternative is panzerfaust 30. it is not like it will change anything in the game for its BR, except that it may not kill jumbo through turret on perfect angle. i am also not certain how effective range is actually modeled in this game so :man_shrugging:

you are forgetting that panzerfaust lobs past certain distance and will hit surface with decreased angle. sloped armor doesnt work against it as well as against ofenrohr.

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Well except that the Sherman with the RHA armor is also at the same BR anyway… M4A3 105 and M4A2 have really strong armor at their BR, same goes for KV-1.

Also Man portable AT weapons are made to deal with tanks in an uptier as well.

IMO AT weapons themselves are OK as they are, but explosive packs need to be nerfed, they should only disable tanks by blowing up tracks and destroying the turret + MG.

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GrB-39 with 100mm pen is enough for BR III

It does not have 100mm of pen.

pretty sure it does

penetration for 0°/30°/60°: 90 / 77 / 45

90mm pen is perfectly fine for BR III

really?
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i guess i need to learn how to do 0° shots from distance.

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shoot the side armour
if youre lol penning a heavy tank from the front of the same BR as the AT weapon, thats just broken

Churchill III actually has 76mm thick frontal hull armour so actually 90mm is enough lol

well i disagree. AT soldiers should be able to kill tank on same BR frontally with their weapon.

btw shall we draw parallel for m1/m9 bazooka and PIAT on BR2 and BR3? they are also overkill for all tanks on their BR cause no german tank has 80mm, nor 127mm armor on BR2 and BR3.

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They shouldn’t

so remove all AT rocket launchers cause they are overkill? i guess tankers will be happy. maybe keep m1 bazooka on BR5…

Nobody is asking for that extremity