The kiraly is needs a buff I it definetly needs more rof I mean look at the japanese ppsh (Tokyo arsenal) which was I think based of the Sig MKMS which the Kiraly shares similarities with so ppsh rate iof fire which a heck less recoil.
Király39M has decent rof and damage.
Its dispersion and damage decrease with range that should get buffed.
Im too lazy to make a proper suggestion supported by data and reports for now, but I will get there… eventually.
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No reason to buff the best smg in the game
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These are indeed the stats id buff if necessary.
Anyway even as it is I consider it as better option than mkb42 ( Which unlocks after kiraly )
If you do some research on Danuvia SMGs, you will find that they horribly underperform at longer ranges in this game, which is funny cause Danuvia was specifically designed to be the most effective SMG at ranged combat at its time.
Anyway, I will make a proper suggestion later, just keep the toxic Im not Axis main so no buff mentality out.
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Horribly over nerfed weapon.
Not that it matters, there is no point of having all StG variants on the same BR.
MKb42 and Ppsh41 would be perfectly fine on BR4.
Not that BR4 is any different from BR5 at the moment so it would be nothing but cosmetic change until DF fixes MM.
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Agree, lock them BR 1-2, and plenty of guns could go down on BR scale.
MP38/40 fits easy to BR 1-2 and would make certain muh HA people happy.
Atleast the other beretta or mp35 could & should be BR3.
Mkb42 with AVS36 ( With some adjustments ) fits br4 just fine.
Id anyway keep the kiraly & PPsh at br5.
While I think the merge was arguably best decision they have made so far, the current MM is indeed one massive clusterfk.
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MKB, Kiraly and Beretta should all be BR 4 weapons
MKB being a low DPS high range auto gun
Kiraly should be a high DPS low range auto gun
Beretta should be a hybrid between both
this same logic of balance should be applied to all BRs, same overall rank of weapons on the same BRs, but with different playstyles - so to create interesting weapon choices for each BR.
The only thing I’d FIX, is horrible recoil/dispersion it has.
I don’t want faster rof, it’s quite perfect how it is atm.
The ppsh41? 
yeah it’s fine as is too.
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I think it has to do with preferences, I prefer the Ppsh41 and Mp7171(r) over Király39M and any other submachine gun.
On the other hand Király does have amazing reload speed and recoil perks work wonders on both 39M and 43M so it shouldn’t be a surprise if someone likes it more. Especially people who are well used to handling thompson SMGs.
Meh idk. At close range, the Danuvia will clean rooms, even better than ppsh41, which is strange. At longer ranges, it has such horrible recoil (probably worst in game for smgs) than the ppsh41 will achieve better results which is also strange. Even with recoils perks I always use.
Premium Danuvia has better recoil stats, and soldiers can have both vert AND hor. recoil recductions perks, which makes it much better.
Yeah I own the Király43M, its definitely a strong squad, but I still honestly expected it to be BR4.
Why Király when you can pick Soumi or StG44?
It feels like a Thompson-Beretta hybrid, but I have more fun with it than with the Thompsons. But I don’t know why it is Tier V. Either buff recoil or dispersion.
Brs are too compressed anyway. Probably subject to changes one day or another.
It’s one of, if not my personal favorite weapon in game.
Have a lot of hours playing with it which makes he recoil pattern fairly predictable for me.
But I do get if ppl find it annoying to handle.
A lot of the BR5 SMGs suffer the problem of being compared to assault rifles.
Even funnier when pistol-caliber automatics somehow have more recoil in comparison.
The Kiraly actually has worse recoil than a Federov firing rifle cartridges, and considerably more recoil than an stg 44, which is magnified by its fire rate.
At least it’s not in as bad a state as the thompsons.
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Just make the smgs stay at br four or three and let the assualt rifles take over berlin.
I mean yeah thompsons definetly need a buff
The problem with Kilary is having more recoil than Fedorov Automat… is funny how this game works
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