Very simple.
Dear devs, when will you update obtained bronze weapons orders to make them as frequent as troops orders? We got the troops bronze increase but are still waiting on weapons ones…
Thanks.
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I second this.
We need to see a bump in that economy.
@Keofox
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Yeah, I was kinda expecting that to come with whole weapon logistics update, and we really need now more bronze than ever, at this rate with premium time I won’t touch upgrading vehicles in next 6 months.
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Now after playing for some time i could see an slight boost in that meter for sure
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We need yet to be able to sell all weapons we have, me as well many veteran players have stacks with unneeded mortars, flamethrowers, AT weapons, even some pistols and especially revolvers (they really sucks). Also what about this 100 knifes to 1 bronze rate (rather pretty bad numbers, but still)?
Very much needed once you progress farther in the campaigns.
I need Bronze a lot more than Silver right now.
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lmao right?
as i stated 1 week after the changes - no bronze orders to upgrade everything and i keep getting alot of silvers i wont need for months lmao.
i belive i gained around 50 silver weapon and around 25 silver soldiers in few days worth of play…
update day:
now :
poor shiivex is poor xD
at any rate, i m pleased with the silver income , but maxing everything with bronze orders is the pain now x)
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Long time ago, the end game was: go to max lvl
Then it was: max all your squads
Then it was: max your soldier star
Now it is: max your weapons
Tomorow it will be this:
Bronze is not now more valuable than silver.
Especially if you choose to upgrade Soldier II or Soldier III instead of Soldier I. For the moment there is no point to do so.
But every currency should have the same use and value when you go through the campaign.
All currency should be calculated like that: “at lvl X you will earn (with battlepass and premium) Y bronze tickets, Z silver tickets, and it will enough to max most of the weapon/soldiers according to your level.”
The last updates (with silver order ) corrected the “Z” very well.
For the moment there is a big deficit in “Y” wathever your “X” level is.
But Math is boring so to sum up:
The grind is very strong already in this game, the bronze ticket shouldn’t be another grind inside the grind, but more a choice given to the player to invest in a specific weapon.
Player (new or veteran) love customization. The economic system of bronze ticket for weapon is against easy customization.
“I love this weapon, i will max it”
The economy don’t need to be absolutly fixed right now, but it will need to be fixed when the game is released: when a massive amount of new player will discover the game.
Yeah, and they also need to raise money to keep the boat floating. Ence why we see level 1 squads and after 2 major updates level 2 ones and so on. So people have more reasons to invest as the time goes to feel they have the best options with them.
But that’s not even the point here.
The point is grind/investment in either time or effort is needed to justify money usage over current monetization of this game.
So for once, I don’t want everything yesterday
And having do do few more batles per upgrade won’t kill me either.
This said, silver order income is more than enough to keep squads full with weapons and soldiers if, the player manages their income over time over how well they perform in a match.
Bronze orders are valuable on players on my campaign levels(max) right now, but will be again another item to stack once we upgraded the extra few items we buy here and there.and the hoarding will happen again.
Right now I wouldn’t mind having more bronze orders as average income, I feel they are more valuable to me since I already have all the guns I want, and can easily hoard dozens of silver ones between major updates, to equip multiple squads, but on the other hand I clearly understand I ill get on a point I ill hoard them with no actual usage for Atleast another 3 months untill a major update with more levels and the circle repeats :
Grind 6 levels per campaign as fast as possible
Get the guns or squads maxed out
Upgrade de guns or squads if I feel I ill play with them on the long run
Move to the next campaign.
Waste 2 weeks doing this, and all the remaining 2.5 months between updates are purely to hoard orders and just have fun with no regards to match outcome.
As for low level players, yeah, they might need them even more than me, but either way will be difficult for them to even have what we gatter for almost 0 effort for months.
Atleast “no lifers” like me that have lots of time to play+premium +tons of xp per match.
I agree with this suggestion.
There are much more weapons in the game than soldiers, but at the same time, weapons improve much longer, since bronze applications still cost 5 (6) thousand experience
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Wait, hold it, I get 1 bronze for 100 knifes?
I have about 13.000 knifes. Thats pretty comfy, gonna code me an autoclicker now.
This is, unfortunately, utopian.
There’s not going to be such thing as a majestic ceremony with champagne and cutting of ribbons when the game gets “released”. Nor a magical influx of new players out of nowhere.
The game will keep evolving at a mostly constant pace, with every periodic major update bringing new content (guaranteed), some fixes (hopefully), more rarely some new mechanics, and once in a blue moon some kind of major overhaul somewhere (possibly).
During this repeating process, there will be at some point in the future a day in which patch notes will also casually mention “Oh, right, with this update the game exits beta and is officially released, cheers.” And that will be it.
That’s what happened with War Thunder.
Game being “in beta” or “released” is empty semantics, pretty much since the release of Tunisia. Except for using beta status as standard quick excuse whenever convenient.
I’m afraid this is yet another ill effect of Gaijin monetization model revolving around artificially induced frustration and economy manipulation.
Everything would be SO much simpler and player friendly, if there were just one or two free currencies (say, silver and bronze without distinction between weapons and troops) and a premium one (Enlisted Gold).
(Gold orders are more like bonus coupons, so they are a different matter.)
But NOPE. By spamming different and mostly not exchangeable currencies (last time I counted, there were 10 or so different currencies in War Thunder, go figure), the Snail makes sure it can apply multiple levels of artificial shortages.
The goal, quite predictably, is to PREVENT the player from reaching a point where he’s satisfied with his progression/earnings pace, even with premium. The player must ALWAYS feel some kind of shortage, so that no matter how much he pays, he’s encouraged to pay MORE.
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Yeah, fully agree.
Artificial bottlenecks to keep the player engaged to play, grind and spend.
How sucessefull their business model is in enlisted, we will never know.
I may be one of the exceptions here, but I played Enlisted before War Thunder, and the sheer BS of the War Thunder “system” kept me from continuing to purchase anything. The low tier stuff is a blast to use and I still log in every day (at about 7 P.M.) to roll the roulette wheel…which takes about 2 minutes, so no big loss. Other than that, I have zero engagement with that game anymore. That may change in the future, but so far it seems unlikely.
I’m hoping Enlisted is allowed to learn from War Thunder’s mistakes, and I think there are plenty there to learn from.
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Although it is possible, given WT, I hope its done more like WoWS was. Starter bundles were listed, lots of ads preemptively put on YouTube and other platforms, and then a definitive date for release 1.0.
It made all the work some of us put into that title worth it.
Some part of me is hoping they go that route when it comes time.
But “We don’t know what we don’t know” so anything is possible.
Wait you have pre…
QAQ
WHAT FOR??? I have 300 bronze wep orders, WHAT SHOULD I BUY FROM IT??? I CAN’T DO ANYTHING WITH IT IM SO MAD…Everything is silver now and took out random wep chest…what do you need that shitty bronze for???
upgrade things ofc. Upgrade some vehicles and you will become poor to xD
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For a slightly better perfomance? Let say I do, still my soilders need weapons, and then I get a few more levels and I need new weapons again, then I buy some soilders open some squads I need new weapons again for 8 freakin teams!!! It’s pointless with the silver and bronze now, even the equipment is for silver…I just can’t see how am I the only one with this problem…