Bring back I guess? M4A3E2 76 (W) and maybe kv2 and ISU 152

i don’t see anything wrong with that.

as some people spam full autos, others that choses to not do the same, and do otherwise are required to put alittle bit more effort.

same goes for tanks vs tank engagements.

which as you used to say, it’s not meant to be balanced between each other. because you can always relay on airplanes.

and you should if you find the tanker life difficult.

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Me too, I am just saying:

Since they are obviously not on the same power level. And I just want well balanced game.

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eh… i’m not sure you can balance tank vs tank combat. because even with a t26 you’re gonna have an hard time ( well, technically, less than a sherman, but you’ll still need to aim ) .

personally, as i grinded the allies at the beginning of the merge ( with bad sights and allegedly worse tanks ) went better than expected and was able to fully research the whole tech tree by having all squads maxes out ( outside snipers. )

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Why? Classic Pershing will be equivalent to tigers 1 and super Pershing will be equivalent to Tigers 2.

I doubt super Pershing will be premium. But who knows.

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super pershing, yeah, that one shouldn’t have too many issues, but the regular perishing with default shells is considered one of the worst tanks of war thunder. ( there isn’t much trade in pen for the overhaul armor )

as much i get enlisted is not technically war thunder, seeing how disappointing i was with the firefly, ( or prolly just ptsds from WT ) i’m not sure it will perform well.

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I do have 0 experience with these tanks in WT. But ammos without explosive fillers overall sucks in Enlisted, that’s true. Premium firefly is truly a big disappointment.

Hopefully we’ll get the second version of firefly for tech tree with proper ammo that has explosive filler.

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Oh yes let my aim carefully a tiny spot where there is also a chance to ricochet and while i trying to do this the enemy infantry will capture a zone
As i said before Tiger 2 (H) should not be a problem if i could flank them but guess what i cant because te grayzone

I had the same problem with the Jumbo back then
Germans tanks had problem to defeat it frontally
And peoples said “just flabk it” but guess what
grayzone

And what im supposed to do when the Tiger 2 (H) in hull down and i cannot shoot the coupol?

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that’s… phisically impossible.

there aren’t many paces where the tiger can somehow hide the cupola and shoot at you.

you… don’t need to flank unless you are using a sherman m4a1/2/3

which, rule of thumb, even if the marker it’s red, shoot there. you’ll pen it most of the time.

… or you can always use planes if you don’t like that / find it too difficult

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“There is arent many places to hide the cupola”
Say hy to any small /hills etc

" You dont need to flank them unless you are using M4A1 2/3"
US 76mm cannot penetrate the Tiger 2(H) frontally
only the QF 17 on the firefly could the turret cheeks with APDS but currently we dont have APDS in-game

“even if the marker its red shoot there you wil pen it most of the time”

If i shoot the Tiger 2 (H) UFP where the marker is red
with the 76mm sherman gun 32 time ( 32 the maximum ammo ) the still not going to pentrate it

“or you can always use planes if you don’t like that / find it too difficult”

plane flight models are disgusting ( early WT models )
and even if i destroy the big cat the player could just jump into a plane and get an easy kill on my and i cant even do any flights manoeuvre to counter it because the lead indicator whats not always right but like 80%

WT did taught me how to dogfight but it means nothing in Enlisted because the lead indicator
Therefore its not skill issue on my side

I dont think you know what you talking about

that’s… precisely the first thing will pop up.

it’s cupola.

they can’t hide their cupola.

it can.

  • through the cupola.

i wouldn’t suggest things if i’m not sure of them.

except, they do.

you can and will destroy any tiger if you aim for their cupola.

in some instances, i even managed to pen their upper turret plate. but perhaps that was luck.

anyway, here is a small video if you need one ( granted, it’s… quite too close, but for experience, you can try it your self from a far, i can vouch that it works )

believe me or not, it’s thankfully to this video that i changed my opinion right away.

i too, once had skill issue and thought americans tanks were bad, and thought tigers were too op. but once i fully tested this theory above for a lengthy time ( roughly a month ) i quickly changed my opinion and now, with the soviets too, know how to deal with tigers without having to results to plane.

but, if that doesn’t work for you, bombs works just fine against tigers too.

( outside once again, with the firefly. you cannot do anything to tigers… )

only a very small % has more than one vehicle.

which i don’t know what does the plane flight model has to do with any of that.

you can suicide bomb, or hit their cupola.

the options are there.

sounds like the willing to do just that, or even trying is not fully there.

yet… you struggle to pen a tiger with a 76?

i’m not claiming things,

but you should take word on your own advice :slight_smile: :

which… one of us struggle to pen a simple tiger.

and it’s not me.

so… you tell me.

P.s.

keep your projections to your self sweety.

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Unfortunately the QF-17 only can fire APCBC ( solid shot ) and APDS ( better APCR ) what can go trough the Panther UFP
and you still need to aim for the Tiger 2 (H) cheeks
but it has better damage after a successful penetration
Unlike the APCR

But i dont think we going to get APDS in the Firefly even in WT only the A34 Comet I has APDS even if its shares the same gun with the Firefly

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Thanks for info, didn’t know it.

Oh sniping a cupola in the practice room is different unlike in normal battle
Now do it in a normal battle face to face with the Tiger 2(H) not from behind cover or flanking since you said
"You dont need to flank the Tiger 2 (H) "

Look mate i played WT since beta ground forces i know what im talking about
let my know when you can do the same without the game holding your hand or what im said in a normal battle without cover without flanking

you don’t have to tell me about it :wink:

but someone has to start from somewhere.

golden advise here.

been there, done that.

but it is advised to take cover behind some wreck to protect your self.

wait before shoot, or wait for the tank to stop, and then fire.

coinceilment is your biggest advantage. ( after all, almost all if not all allied tanks are painted in green ) tigers on the other hand, are tan. ( that is, the majority of tiger II players )

that’s precisely the issue with you.

sounds like you want just that and put 0 efforts and expect things to be handed to your self.

as much you can flank, and won’t do it for whatever reason,

killing tigers is not that hard as you claim.

and it’s worrying that someone who claims:

roughly as i did, still struggles to pen tigers.

which… wt is cool and all, but it’s not precisely the same game as enlisted.

models are different, and in wt, you’re not stuck with default shells.

therefore, it completely changes the game.

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Lets do a 1v1 then on the airdiled map you with the 76mm sherm im with the Tiger 2(H)

sure

when and where?

Now

let me create a game with password then.

Im creating a game

There should be
One with the name amazing_month041

You one side of the air strip im the other side
No cover no flank etc