I think would fit well with current BR adjustments and contractions. I can’t see the case for this vehicle staying BR4.
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It will be perfect for me Afrika Korps
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I completely agree, it makes no sense it is on the same BR as the Tiger which is better in literally all regards. I mean the fact its completely open in my opinion means it could easily sit at BR2 frankly.
Iirc, someone made the claim that it is “better against infantry” due to its reload time and having slightly more shells.
it’s fine as it’s hard countered by Panzerfausts/M9, planes and literally any tank of BR2-4
plus it’s HE-TF shell is dreadful against planes (it should be the main selling point)
Well, that was the only explanation I ever got for its ridiciolous rating compared to the Tiger H1.
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This is what I posted When it was first announced (before release)
Basically, got met with “It fires so fast it’s amazing, you don’t know what your talking about, you have never played it, blah blah”
The gun is amazing if you can get in a position to use it…nothing else about it is user friendly.
In War thunder it commonly fights what are BR 3 vehicles in Enlisted
- Shermans
- KV-1s
- T-34s
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Oh the other argument was its RoF with HE was too crazy vs infantry…you know what Else can fire HE shells at the same rate with similar results? The T-28E…and that is apparently “mediocre at best” at BR 2
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The stats for the blast radius are the exact same as 75mm HE with 0.20m … But the normal tiger has 40% more range with 0.28m
Wow, the gun is even worse than expected.
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People hear “88” and lose their mind.
But the HE ammo is flak ammo (HE-TF: 698 explosive mass) the Tiger uses proper HE (HE: 900 grams explosive mass)
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Same firerate and explosion radius as the BR 3 APC with about as much HE ammo in the reserve.
This really does not sound terrifying at all unless the fragments can make up for it but I am not sure about that.
Strictly speaking it is terrifying “if you can set up”. BUT you have no gun depression between 10-2 (clock face)…If you get caught in transit, you wont be firing back most of the time
So you either have to be already setup ready, or drive forward and then turn side on before you can volley fire well
…or drive backwards slowly, with your ammo Rack up front leading the way
If somebody can get into position he probably deserves to use the gun even in BR 3. Even then it seams questionable why you should use the tank over now a 3N that will be still capable in AT but arguably even better in shelling infantry.
While not dieing the moment a bomb missed your tank by 20+m or a plane strafed you.
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Exaclty. Its pretty much a no brainer…even normal Panzer IVs
I have the Flakbus and while I love playing it as a joke unit, it would be my favorite vehicle if the AA rounds actually worked correctly. I’ve shot down maybe 15 planes with it across 50 games and I’ve come to realize the only way to ensure an aircraft hit (and not a kill mind you) is for the aircraft to maintain velocity and trajectory and to place your crosshaor dead center on the lead indicator.
The only real advantages of the unit are the fantastic penn and how hard it is to kill the unit with AP rounds. But as soon as a player uses an HE round on it, I’m toast. If the AA shells were either proxy radio fused or you could set their detonation range, they would be very handy. As it stands, it’s just a meme unit.
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I was wrong about this vehicle.
In its current state, it is definitely not better than, say, a dicker max. So I think it should follow it and go to BR3 as well.
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Btw. It takes ages to move your gun to that position anyway.
If there’s a single thing I hate about this vehicle, it’s definitely the slowness of its gun traverse. Extremely annoying.
You can’t react quickly. And once you’re marked, you’re just never gonna get the first shot at an enemy tank.
I have yet to find a way of playing this vehicle that is fun.
It’s quite a pity. Because it could have been something extremely unique.
But so far, it’s more of a unique chore.
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Yup, thats yet another downside.
Thats why i always argue one needs to look at the whole package and not just the guns/ordnance capabilities.
Lots of player just see “big gun/bomb”
I didnt have to play it in enlisted to know what it was going to be like, because i spent 13 years in warthunder…(its in my enlisted BR 4 deck this year. Just because)
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