BR factions (soviet , germany and usa ) only 4 and 5 will face with others

a suggestion to make BR 4 and 5 good in question of armaments and rebalance but excluding tier 3 to face tier 4 like japan did

i would like to suggest to rebalance tier 4 from germany

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mkb 42 h could be in tier 4 since the assault isnt that great either by rate of fire

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fg 42 in tier 4 and desecrease a little the recoil

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increase damage of fg 42 II to 12.7 and desecrease a little the recoil

as for Soviets

avs 36 to tier 4 to compete fg 42

add new avt 40 variant

a variant of AVT 40 with 20 bullets in mag or 25 for the tech tree br 5

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well as for usa theres might be a problem but theres solution the m2 auto carbine can be in tier 4 only if faces germany but if it is japan it will stay tier 5 because they dont have tier 4 battle rifle

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buff reduce the recoil and increase damage 12 to 12.7

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so much of this is bad,
first US has nothing at BR4 assaulter that can face a ar
second the us has no rifle at br4 that can face a fg42
third that johnson is a machine gun not a rifle
Evolution of the M1941 Johnson Rifle. : r/ForgottenWeapons
the johnson rifle at br 4 is too weak to face a fg42 a 10 shot semi fed by two five round stripper clips
the johsnson r with a 20 round mag box might due
then there’s the Thomson’s m1 m21/28 maybe crank the damage to 7.5

the other problem is br3 which will now see sf and ar guns, sorry for ignoring soviets as you seemed to have worked on rifle and soviet br4 smgs have 50 rounds bad but not horrible, but 30 round thomsons anf 8 round garands are no match.

god us tech tree needs a rework smg br4 5

missed this but br4 still applies and that is if you can make it happen

well thats why m2 carbine will face tier 4 germany but will be exclude facing tier 4 japan , about the johnson is not a rifle i know but the problem the stats of that mg doesnt fit on tier 4 since te 4 and mg 34 patronentrommel, theses two have more ammo and good fire rate , you see the problem ? the johnson lmg have good firerate but the ammo is the problem , recoil too i cant forget , the fire rate of this weapon is soo high you spend more time reloading it than killing

Horrible ideas. BR4 should be completely separated from BR5.

read the suggestion correctly and you didnt even give any example the why is the bad idea

Already read your highly chaotic suggestion. BR4 is always uptiered to BR5 so it doesn’t matter if you downtier it to BR4 or not it will be still pretty much a BR5 weapon. Mkb42 (and other copies like stg45, horn stg) is so weak that it should be at BR3. They already have two ARs, one at BR2 and another one at BR4.
Americans have countless Thompsons + BAR with high rof and dmg per bullet (they should bring that one BR4 tommy with low dispersion to BR3), Soviets have no recoil ppsh-41 box and also 71 round smg at BR3 and what Germany has? Nothing good only BR2 smg power of US/USSR at BR3.

its not chaotic , my suggestion are supposed to make tier 4 stronger to face properly tier 5 and exclude tier 3 facing teir 4 too

No
no powercreep

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Stg45 is already at BR4 and it can’t compete vs overpowered Fedorov + AS-44 + RD-44 + AVT-40/AVS-36 of BR5 so how could Mkb42 with just 50 more rof could compete against them?
Both ultra weak ARs (Stg45, Mkb42, Horn Stg) belong at BR3 especially since Soviets have most op gun in the game - Fedorov MG at BR4, drum PPD-1944 at BR3 and German MG42 Early is at BR4, you also have Kiraly and much stronger Mkb42(M) all of those are much better picks than almost worthless Mkb42.

You don’t know stats so you can’t know that avs-36 is better than current avt-40.

you know avs 36 will not be better avt 40 if avt40 receive a buff to have 20 or 25 bullets mag in my suggestion , and the fg42 in my suggestion supposed to be a buff reducing the recoil and fg42 II reducing recoil and increase damage to 12.7 , rd44 isnt that very op its just balanced lmg and not even as44 other balanced AR , kiraly is not better than mkb 42 h , mkb 42 h is very good in range combat , zero recoil and good damage they own standarts purposes … man you didnt read correctly to my suggestion im talking to a wall

read the suggestion correctly

yes because Germany and USSR fight each other and only each other Allies US/UK never fight Germany and BR4 allies would totally be balanced for this

missed it but johnson 1941 is br3 us lacks br4 rifle add johnson r with increased magazine at br4

exactly my thoughts. SF rifles should be BR5 and should even be little nerfed with extra recoil.

i would rather move few outliers from all factions to higher BR, then try to compensate whatever boo thinks his faction is currently suffering from cause other faction has some OP weapon.