Br 2 ⬅ m38/42

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BR2 :arrow_left: M38/42


Reasoning: (On request; consistency)


The Same gun is already at BR 2 (Beretta M1, the difference is so subtle)



I think this one is Pretty Straight forward so Ill leave it at that.


Move into Folder with Beretta M1:


In Conclusion. Please Consider moving the Beretta M38/42 to BR 2. Thanks!


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They should be inside the same folder in the tech tree tbh

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good point. added

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Are you intentioanlly sowing the stats of SA Sniper rifles?

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thanks…copy pasted M1C Garand post lol

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Have they ever moved things in research tree before? I doubt they will.
Maybe they should buff the firerate to be closer to Beretta M38A/40, about 600-630 I guess?

Buffs an option i guess.

I honestly believe ZK is better than BR4 Beretta, they should just move the BR4 Beretta into BR3 as well.

I would rather buff it. There are so many BR2 smgs (especially if including premium/event/BP and so).

I would actually prefer to have some variety on BR3 as well. And I fail to see the point in having basically two identical weapons.

that is actually a good point, German BR2 SMGs are already on mass - what would you think if some slow shooting SMGs like MP38 would move to BR1 in a nerfed state?

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May be. But I don’t really want to derail topic.

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I would rather alter payload/buff alot of things than just change the BR. But i think its a lot less likely to happen when BRs barely change.

Just making BR suggestions incase they do a sweep soon…least work for them

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I think the MP35 should be level two as well. I already have two level two MP35 event guns which is more or less the same gun, other then the barrel being shorter on the level two smg. I will say moving the MAS38 from level three to level two gave the Germans a decent high rate of fire smg that, other then the 1918 Beretta with the crappy sites needs to somewhat counter the PPS43.

I see good reasons for lowering some SMGs, so that new players have earlier access to decent SMGs, however at the same time this logic can also be used the other way - moving more SMGs into higher BRs could also mean that new players dont have to fight against those powerful weapons.

Personally I think BR2 SMGs should stay relatively weak, so that BR1 can specifically be for bolt action gameplay - while I also imagine more automatic guns would be better to keep new players in the game, since bolt action rifles are difficult to use… so its difficult to find the best solutions here…

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I think had I been the game creator, I would have made level one pretty much all bolt action rifles. Rifles and sniper rifles, then they get smg’s and mg’s beginning at level two. That means of course that myself going into my third year would avoid level one like the plague, since I suck with bolt action rifles. :rofl:

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Honestly? This is not a bad idea, when MGs start at BR2, so can SMGs.

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I have a couple level one premium rifle squads, which I bought to change their ammo pouch to secondary weapon, then I can use at any level. However, I would most likely keep them strictly level one if level one was all bolt action. I am not good with them, but I would on occasion for something different play a level one match. And honestly, if DF would change all their premium squads to changeable weapons loadouts, I would not care if they revamped the game making level one all Bolties because I could redesignate all the level one premium smg squads I have and use at other levels.

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If it is pointless why even bother?

0.2 faster reload time… now queues against M1944 and AS44. Makes sense, dude… especially since even you seem to fail the reasoning here. later one

Except yes you can. This game was and is not historical accurate and a arcade game.

I find it funny that even you struggle to justify not moving the M38/42 but then also say “lol why bother? All pointless and shitty placement cant be changed”.
Some mental gymnastics here.

Yeah Nice summary of your post here, dude.

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Thanks again, added

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