BR 1 ⬅ All Nations Motor Bikes


BR 1 :arrow_left: All Nations Motor Bikes


The Biker Squad, while a squad enjoyed by some of us, is one that is not widely used or seen. There are probably many reasons why, I suspect the main reason being, it’s not the easiest squad to get value out of for most players.


Pros

  • Can be quite mobile (terrain and clutter willing)
  • Good selection of specialists and Weaponry options
  • Engineer
  • Good machine gun (with no overheats and magazines YAY!)

Cons

  • 3-man Squad. Not forgiving, Easy to eliminate
  • Sitting on the bike makes for an easy target
  • Machine gun traverse arcs are tight
  • Most maps aren’t friendly for high mobility. (Clutters, holes, railway lines :stuck_out_tongue: )
  • Costs the same tickets as a 9-man squad, APC, Heavy CAS, Heavy Tank
  • Minimal Objective Capturing weight

For Concerns about the MGs being too good for BR 1, I’d just like to point out that with its downsides, its arguably less effective than an engineer light/heavy machine gun emplacement at BR 1. Emplacements Trade mobility for better ARCS, easier to conceal and no need to reload (easy to manage heat for unlimited fire power)



The Biker Squad comes in at the Same time as APCs and is rather over shadowed by them despite having extra engineer options (Especially overshadowed by BR 2 MG halftracks).

APCs take over

As it is BR 1 lacks options. As such I think it is reasonable for bikes to be available Before APCS to provide a sense of Natural Progression.


In Conclusion, I believe the Biker Squads would make a fun addition to BR 1. Might even see them used a bit, even if just for a while.

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More work to the rider class is absolutely needed. We need it as a separate TT slot though.

Bikes, Trucks, APCs, etc.

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I would use the bikes if they were BR1. As it stands now, there is never a reason to bring them, especially considering free to play players are limited to only 4 squad slots.

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I could be remembering wrong, But it just occurred to me that the Bikes have a unique attribute that is quite cool.

If you kill an Enemy APC squad Or tank, the Tank/APC in unusable to you. But if you kill an enemy biker squad, anyone can take it for a Spin.

I have a fond memory back in Tunisia having a War with an enemy player over my bike lol. We kept fighting over it all match. I want to say he used, it? I cant quite remember because I took it back so quick lol (In ant case, we certainly fought over the bike all match)

that would be good BR 1 shenanigans

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Sure but also buff they magazines as only Usa has 250 rounds

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Give Germany MG34 with 150 rounds as it shoots faster than M1919
Give USSR Maxim Tokarev with 200 rounds or at bare minimum upgrade it to DP-27 and make it reload very fast
Give Japan something better probably something imported as they had no belt fed mgs only magazine fed for their small vehicles like Italians

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Also fix XP needed to lvl up them. They are not even fixed in the Test server which is just sad, even DF forget about old Bikes

im sorry, but no.

bikes at BR II are fine where they at.

no need for br IV/III on br I in hands of bad actors just there to farm newbies.

that’s kinda the point. a mobile mg is way stronger than a static one.
at least, it can be taken out much more easily.

while the bikes instead, you can snipe people with the mg due to it’s accuracy and reposition.

i truly believe people understimate bikes and refuses to fully understand and exploit their potential.

lowering them will not aid anyone.

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BR 1 is paired with BR 2. Already reality (and yet not something you see happening)…

anyway. that orange comment, was for you. Well aware of your feelings on the matter.

Pre-emptive Agree to Disagree

I swear sometimes it’s faster to use a soldier on foot built for speed than to use any vehicle.
Maps are truly awful for vehicles (unless you are satisfied with frontal engagements only).

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also keep in mind that BRs can always be changed back. Give it a try, if it turns out to be bad, revert it.

Either that or bigger maps

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You can rearm your MG emplacements when the shooter dies very easily, but you only have 3 people on that bike… i guess when you place the bike and hide your remaining 2 bikers in the bushes nearby something similar could be achieved - but I dont think that makes it crazy strong.

Yes you can get a fast flanking run established, but still… a 3 man squad is simply tiny.

so should we move Panzer II C to BR3?, that has MG34 built in it so…

in most games, you just get picked off. or the machinegun gets destroyed.

so, no. it is worse than the bike it self.
hence make sense it can appear in br 1.

vehicles mgs < Bike mgs < hand held mgs.

literally not even a comparison or competition

0 overheat, fast reload and it can 1 hit kill people.

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Bike too can get picked off and it’s even easier to get spotted and squad whipped (3 clumped up dudes Vs 6 “spread out” engineers).

More over, it’s easier to reposition as soldier on foot than to manoeuvre with a bike, especially if you need to reverse.

Not to mention BR1 HMG nests with even more damage and AP potential. (At least I don’t think bikes have AP?)

only if you stand still

If you want to have any accuracy, you need to stand still. Or drive on a asphalt road (totally not an easy target).

that’s why you can snipe with it.
and reposition.

Sure… With dreadful reverse speed and cluttered maps. It’s faster to just rebuild MG nest.

again, im sorry, but maps aren’t an issue if you cant drive them, and not have the rider to improve speed and manouvrability ( berlin manor can be though . and perhaps georgia)