Bombing run hot take

Warning - hot take
When I heard bombing runs were coming to all campaigns I was very skeptical. I figured that this change would be bad for the game, and make it less fun to play. However, with the changes to the bombing runs, they are much easier to take down and reward a team for building adequate air defenses and playing as a fighter. The frequency of calling in the bombing runs may still be too frequent, but I am enjoying shooting the bombers a lot more than I thought I was going to.

The anti-aircraft guns now have much more purpose and I find myself building and using them more often. Anti-air half-tracks suddenly are much more able to fill their role of shooting down bombers. The overall increase in air activity is exciting to me, as I really want some half-tracks in this game and now anti-aircraft half-tracks in all campaigns would be usable for their purpose instead of just shooting infantry.

I booted up war thunder to get a look at some of the anti-aircraft half-tracks the devs could import directly. Tanks and planes are already taken from war thunder so it’s only logical that the half-tracks from warthunder would also be borrowed. I tried to grab half-tracks that don’t have too much open seating so they are actually usable in combat.

I know half-tracks are probably coming, but I figured I might as well post some of these anyway just in case. These are just a few I quickly found that could be added.

Germany
Flakpanzer 38 - Berlin

Flakpanzer 1 - Moscow


A concern with some of these half-tracks is that some of the early war AA half-tracks are weaker than the current static AA guns. I am not sure how to fix this. Maybe designate half-tracks as rider squads so they don’t waste a vehicle slot. I guess some of the weaker half-tracks just shouldn’t be added idk.

Sd.Kfz. 6/2 - Moscow


For example, this could be used instead of the flakpanzer 1.

AS-42 - Tunisia


This ““tank”” is also terrible, but it would be fun just like the rider squads already in this campaign.

Soviet Union
GAZ-MM (72-K) - Moscow

Zis-43 - Moscow - Stalingrad


This didn’t come into service until 1942, but could be included in moscow for balance reasons. But maybe there is alternatives I am unaware of so that historical inaccuracy can be avoided.

USA
M15 CGMC - Normandy

AEC AA - Tunisia

TLDR: I think the bombing runs are too frequent but a good addition to the game. I think they make anti-air guns, fighters, and half-tracks more viable. I really want half-tracks.

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already in the files
there is also a heavy AA for the ussr

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That’s great, do you know if this is more documented in another post? I would be interested to know what else is hidden in the files.

go look thoght the editor, there is a bunch of shit like,

  • AEC 57mm
  • italian biplane looking thing CR33
  • black bf 109 and hurricane one is primo and the other is a twitch drop
  • flak 36 sdkfz
  • PZ1 flak,
  • pz4 wirbelwind
  • GAZ DSHK
  • gaz 72k
  • m10 achilles
  • 105mm m4a3 sherman
  • m4a3e8 76 long barrel
  • m4a3e2 jumbo 76 long barrel
  • stug 3 A/F/G /G long
  • Tgdgb m40 lv?
  • pz jager 4 48/70 for both berlin and Normandy
  • church hill 1, and three for tunisia
  • m3 halftrack with a 75mm GMC
  • 17 pounder and ZIS 30
  • a US GMC truck
  • t17e2
  • 20mm oerlikon
  • 2 pdr

also a file name for KV 2 1939, ISU 152 PZ38t marder, SDKFZ 251

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Also italian AA pizza car,soviet AA milk truck,maus,kv2 ecc…

@46642960 made a video showed them on youtube

AEC…
MB this will fits better instead of AEC?
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well yes that might be better if the Italians get the AS-42. I chose the AEC AA originally because it was actually used in Tunisia and it is a capable AA gun.

Yeah, but it has a roof and it’s not a truck-based shit

What I am saying is that your smaller AA truck should be used if the Italians get the AS-42. The AEC AA and AS-42 are not at all even, so if the AEC AA is added the Italians would need something stronger. I just like both vehicles because they were used historically.

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this, so much this. Definitely need some adjustments but wasnt as catastrophic as people made it out to be.

I would also add that they should look into escort / intercept bonus for fighters that go to them (either to destroy or defend them) – and yes I have already seen some people defending them … which has led to some fantastic moments imo.

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Interesting idea, an escort bonus could work but it shouldn’t just reward a player for flying straight if no enemy fighters challenge the bombers (no fun). What if you got a bonus when shooting down fighters that are going after the bombers, or just are just in the air at the same time as the bombers. It would give you an incentive to help your teams bombers even if they don’t get you any kills, maybe you get some assists from the bombing run too idk.

The biggest problem with this idea is that it might be hard to know if the enemy has fighters up, so you aren’t wasting your time by spawning in a fighter. I think the best way around this would be to have the bombers request fighter support if the enemy has fighters up, basically the narrator would say something like “friendly bombers are requesting fighter support”.

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it def has some potential of being a cool addition … just needs the tweaks to be made :smiley:

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AA truck like flak panzer and AS42 already work in the editor still we have to see wen they get added

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They work? That’s even better news, hopefully, they get added some point soon then :]

Ask erika for more detail @ErikaKalkbrenner i think was here wo post the video of the flakpanzer here

do they work?

yes, for the as44, the T1CE something something ( the british staghound AA version ) and the Sdkfz 6 AA truck. ( but most miss optics, cockpits, cameras, etc )

no for the flakpanzer the gaz AA and the flakpanzer 38 ( either missing, or not moving despite being named in the editor )

Soviet union: Gaz truck with quad Maxim or nothing.

I accept no substitute.

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