Most of the BA rifle got ~25 rounds of ammo, SA got ~50, SF got ~60.
This is weird, WWII soldiers won’t carry less ammo just because they used BA rifles.
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That’s game design.
BAs have double the DMG.
I really hate argumentation that’s solely based on real life or historical realities. Completely ignoring that Enlisted is game, not a real life.
There’s no way BAs should have same ammo reserve as semis.
People could equip their soldiers with big ammo bags, achieving 100 OHK rounds. That’s total overkill.
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Well, we could go the extra mile and argue that even most semi auto rifles were still loaded with stripper clips, and magazines were NOT a throw away item.
But you are right, in the end this is a game, and certain gameplay mechanics make more sense the way they are.
That being said, am I crazy for saying that I sometimes wish all rifle calibre guns should kill in one shot?
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I think your last point makes sense, however, the game has to be completely rebalanced in order to do so, making it difficult to sell to the devs
agree, it’s already bonkers enough trying to hit meth abusing 180 spinning bot who will reverse their movement 0.001 second after you pull the trigger
otherwiese a max ammo capacity of 65-70 rounds with large magazine pouch seems fair as it’s the combat load for German and Soviet soldiers in WW2
BR5 MGs have 400 10+ dmg rounds. Are they also overkill?
“Trench” bolt gun already have 100 round when using ammo bags. Are they meta or broke the game design?
How quickly do you deplete all your ammo reserves with MG vs. BA?
Maybe you’re not aware of it. But MG has a slightly different role than BA. And somehow it is not expected that all shots firem from MG will hit the target :).
Literally no one would ever have a need to use ammo pouches for BA. If they had a standard 50 round supply.
I don’t even use ammo pouches for a soldier with BA now. I just don’t have that need.
So far I use ammo bags for pretty much any other type of weapon.
Yes, they’re broken. Their default ammo reserve should be reduced to 25. (Literally a similar case to LAD. This weapon has huge magazine with high capacity. So it has no spare magazines. It only has 150/0. And 150/150 with any type of ammo pouch).
Because otherwise there would be no downside to not taking ammo bags. Leaves you a free slot for the pouches = up to 4 first aid kits.
Or you can use combination of smg and trench/warmod BAs.
Some classes do allow it, for examples premium bikers (not sure about free ones, I haven’t bothered to max them out)
You literally can get BA with ammo reserve equivalent to big ammo pouches + you have free smg.
It’s broken. Because there is no negative tradeoff.
And don’t even try to convince me that you would ever need 100 rounds of ammo reserve for your BA guy. No, you would never take big ammo pouch.
Use your BA on an engineer and build your own ammo box.
There. - NEXT ! -
That was historically the case, K98K riflemen carried at least 50 rounds of ammo while G43 riflemen carried at least 100 rounds of ammo so if you divide these by half you get the amount of base ammo in game a soldier is carrying.
The only exception I know is the US army that had the same ammo pouches for both M1903 Springfield and M1 Garand rifle but only 1x 8 round M1 Garand clip could fit inside the same pouch pocket that can hold 2x 5 round Springfield clips so American soldiers actually carried less by default (M1903 total: 100 or M1 G total: 88 rounds in M1923 belt), but they almost always had extra ammo bandaliers and if not clipped their ammo on their cloths or shoved them inside their pockets.
speaking about this belt, i think this belt should be the new US large ammo pouch skin instead
Where did you get this information?
They use same ammo punch witch hold 12 clip (60 rounds)
And yet those SLR rounds do ~1/2 the damage of BA rounds despite being EXACTLY the same ammo…
The amount of ammo is a balance thing that went through many iterations about 2 years ago - the current system is fine - there is no particular reason to have historical load outs since there is not much else historical in the game anyway.
Some of hte platoon organisations at this site quote ammo loads - https://www.battleorder.org/military-organization
Eg https://www.battleorder.org/1944-schutzenkompanie says troops equipped with 98k had 60 rounds combat load and teh squad had about 1150 rounds for the MG in belts held among the.
While a British rifleman was supposed to have 50 rounds for himself, 2 Bren magazines (2x28) and 50 more rounds in clips for the Bren gun - https://www.battleorder.org/uk-rifle-co-1944
The US units listed on that site generally do not include ammo loads other than saying various things about carrying extra ammo for hte BAR, the grenadiers having rifle-grenades, etc.
If manual weapons can get a lot of ammo
We can see more sniper roaches hiding behind to poison teammates
in addition
Manual weapons are almost always guaranteed to kill
That’s why they don’t need more ammo
