Better bombers for jap

Currently jap only have very slow bomber and need to take off from carrier. And most importantly why is jap’s 500kg bomber is at br5 while the 500kg bomber for german and american are in tier2.

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yes,give the one I suggested with small load like they did with ju 188 for japs

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nah ju188 is just one step below p47. Jap could have something like A-20G-25 carry 2000kg in total or carry less ordance but have the ability to join a dog fight like IR-10.

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Mitsubishi G4M it’s in my mind

I think those are already the call in bomber so not sure if those still free game.
But I would just request the KI 49 instead.

I would ask one for americans too, but soviets have a bomber in br 2, germans have the ju, yankees don’t have and japan dudes neither, problem in our game, they exist different planes but sadly we consider them as attack planes or figthers, when they are bombers,dive bombers,attack planes,etc.

P47: Hello?
also american have 500kg bomber in br2 and 4x250kg in higher br(A-20G-25). I think it is equal to ju188 as ju188 traded 2 250kg for not able to fire any gun as pilot. Its really only the jap dont have a bomber/attacker worthy in high br(sovient attacker only have 2 250kg bomb but havethe ability to fight a dog fight)

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I don’t remember, was B7A2 already in the game?
It could carry 500kg~1000kg of bombs.

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jap only have 4 bombers the water plane, the 4x50kg, the 2x250kg and 1x500kg And all of them are slow and basicly sitting duck when facing any other planes in he same br.

and they aren’t “bombers”, they are dive bombers, attack planes and the water plane as you call it’s for scouting, if you want real bombers, you need check mitsubishi G4M and such…

That would be a dumb idea. P1Y1 would be way better IMO. Way more maneuverable, better bombload and faster. Ki49nonly has one 500kg, the P1Y1 has two. Also the P1Y1 is land based so it would also get an Air Spawn. Idk why this community has a boner for the Ki49.

This would be an amazing addition. Great bombload + good offensive armament + good maneuverability.

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The bombload is only as good as the devs allow and to be honest we already got a 500kg bomber so a plane droping 2x 500kg bombs at once is pointless as they just blow up the crater of the first.
With the Ki 49 could get 4 250 kg bombs which would be 2x double 250kg or a metric crap ton of 50kg bombs.

OK and how many aircraft carrier did the IJA operate? Because im sure the KI 49 would not even fit on a carrier even if they did.

Only if DF dont nerf it into the ground like they did on othere planes already.

So the KI 49 might not be the best plane but would still be useful.

If you want meta then you probably would want a heavy fighter bomber type plane instead of a dedicated bomber plane.

Why would the devs implement it like this if the whole point is to add a better dive bomber/attacker!? Two seperate drops are possible and more likely since the 500kg bombs are in a bomb bay, not wing mounted on the P1Y. Plus you have to think about loitering time, will the Ki-49 have the surviablity to last long enough to drop four 250kg bombs? The Ki-49 would not be fast enough to get away from AA gun kill zone and not nimble enough to get away from fighters before it gets shot down. The Ki-49 does have better armor but no self sealing fuel tanks like the P1Y, and though yes twelve 50kg bombs may be a cool thing to clear out an infantry advance it would do very little against tanks like the pershing or jumbo.

Reading comprehension skill issue… read again.

This statement contradicts your entire argument, the Ki-49 is a medium bomber… idk why people think this would be an amazing attack bomber, ITS NOT and no ammount of weird cope with fix that.

Here is a list I made for another forum post about all the available options for good ground pounding aircraft for Japan

Naval Aircraft:
A7M2 (High yield rockets like the WfrGr.21 but they fire individually, not in pairs)
B6N2 (x3 250Kg)
B7A2 (x4 60Kg x2 250Kg)
D4Y2 (x4 Small Rockets for anti-Inf x1 250Kg)
D4Y3 (x3 250Kg)
J5N1 (x2 30mm x2 20mm)
N1K2 J (x4 20mm and High yield rockets or x2 250Kg)
P1Y1 (x2 500Kg)

Army Aircraft:
Ki-43 III (x2 250Kg and extremely nimble)
Ki-44 II Otsu (x2 100kg and twin 40mm caseless cannons, basically 20 rockets, would absolutely shred infantry squads and light vehicles)
Ki-46 III Otsu (x2 20mm x2 37mm)
Ki-83 (x2 20mm x2 30mm x2 50Kg)
Ki-102 Otsu (57mm HE x2 20mm x4 100Kg/x2 250Kg/x1 500/800Kg

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Because that is how every single bomber ingame works. DF does not care about if they could single drop or not they just double drop. Even on planes where they are no mounted symeticly like on the B5N2.
If a plane has a pair of bombs they must always drop both according to DF regarless of bomb bay or capabilitly to counter steering like even fighters could.

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Not really. It has only 56g of explosive, which means it will barely have any splash damage. Moreover, it has only has 20 round, so you will only do little damage to infantry squads. A normal 20mm auto cannon will be way more effective than this.

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Maybe they should fix this first then or just make it carry the 800Kg bomb.

But how much do you gain by just useing a larger bomb?
Yes the radius is larger but if there is a wall inbetween the target it will still eat all the fragmentation.
And odds are that 800kg will not do much more than a 500kg bomb as you drop that on the one tank in the greyzone or already wiped the squads nearby.
Planes benefit way more from beeing able to do multiple drops at some point as droping a 500kg and missing entirely just feels bad.