Better bolt action for BR 3

Because the previously BA in BR 3 get downgraded in BR 2 (finally) I think we should replace their spot with truly BA good for BR 3

Soviet

Directly from the Russian empire armory, the gun who won the the west the Winchester model 1873 who can load 15 round thank his tubolar feed system

Usa and Gbr

From the ww1 the Springfield model 1903 air service a modification of the Springfield able to load 25 round
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Ger and Ita

The Kar98 trench magazine Something that’s just who played the alpha have but I think everyone should get

Japan

Type 99 with a 30 round magazine

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DF when we ask for new BR3 bolt-actions after they lowered them to BR2 because we said that bolt-actions are too weak for BR3.
danganronpa-facepalm

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Although I’m ok with the addition of these rifles, I think that the Devs did the right thing, and no BA should be BR 3 or higher (except maybe the VG for historical reasons).

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15+ round Bolt action are not weak, you can own high BR with them if you can mass use them imo

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whats next, a bolt action with a belt?

100 rounds boltactions are OP, pls nerf.

seriously though, magazine size is only one part of the story, if the cycle rate isn’t better then being in BR3 will still be weak for bolt actions.

A Mannlicher with a 20 round box mag would probably still not work in BR5.

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Isnt this one of the founders bundle weapons?

:person_shrugging: i don’t know

It was in the gmae during alpha you could have bought it but not now anyway I dont like the idea of BR 3 BA rifles I would rather see all BAs be in BR2 or 1 and I also I wouldn’t mind alpha stuff coming back
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alongside the Kar it should come back to the game, i never seeyed them in game once

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I would like to see Alpha weapons come back,too while we are at it there was another BA during the Alpha for Russians Mosina M91 “Infantry” the current one in the tech tree is for cavalry which has short barrel though this one didnt have large mag it was just 5 round mosin m91 with longer barrel

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We literally just had an event whose reward was a 25rds BA. And it rightfully is BR 2.

Larger ammo capacity is a great commodity for a BA, but it doesn’t affect its “short-term” DPS in a meaningful way.

In practical terms, the fastest cycling BA will in the best case let you take down 2-3 consecutive targets roughly in the same time it would take with a mediocre semiauto. Hence why I agree that BA should be capped at BR 2.

This isn’t meant to prevent people from bringing BA to top tier (along with other high BR stuff). It’s meant to prevent players from being potentially dragged up to BR 5 just because they put a marginally better BA in their otherwise BR 1-2 lineups.

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A 25rd BA is better than a BR3 semi auto, BR3 semi-auto outside the soviet svt38 are on par with a BA

You forget that’s tier 3 equipment is more less good as tier 2 equipment outside some exception

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No lever weapon should be level 3
Because they pose no real threat in a level 5 environment
Fully automatic weapons will destroy everything

Unless they have anti-tank grenade launchers
High explosive grenade launcher?
That thing is now worse than the Stalingrad after-sales guarantee

Speak the truth
When will the United States have level 3 anti-tank grenades?
Garand grenade rifle is not worth level 4 at all
Exorbitant upgrade costs and class distribution can almost only be used against infantry
You still have to pray that the other side won’t use Tiger to hide behind it and not come out.

I disagree. All BR3 worthy semiautos have got higher “room cleaning” potential than any BA. Making them competitive even vs BR 5.

Which doesn’t mean you can’t clear rooms with BA. But even a Garand lets you do that faster.

That’s the core point. It isn’t about BAs being competitive against BR 3 guns, it’s about BAs being competitive against the BR 5 guns they would commonly face if they were BR 3.

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I would say is harsh use semi auto for clear room in a BR5 environment where everyone is just walking with a full auto gun…

Currently You do effectively clearing with semi auto just in a BR2 environment if you are lucky to be down tiered, but anyway the point that I want trench mag semi in BR3 is because they are to much stronger compared to their normal counterparts

And having them in BR3 would change nothing overall ie just a progression power scale before unlock semi

I don’t think we need push any BA to br 3 at all… rn they on perfect spot.

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I see that this was used in the Russo-Turkish War, but it looks like this would have been used by the Turkish side.

Hey can we get a Winchester? All we have is the (not slam firing) shotgun meanwhile everyone’s constantly trying to give Russia all of their rifles. Maybe I want some lever gat action to supplement my 30-06 dispensing. It just rubs me the wrong way that everyone’s always saying “give Russia this American gun or that American gun,” especially after the M3 Halftrack. I want to use a gun made by one of our oldest gun manufacturers

Yes, while it was literally only useful against the Puma and maybe the Pz III, I’m pretty certain it’s the only rifle grenade with a pen stat. Unless the Russian one can also has one