Battle of France 1940 campaign idea is bad

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Battle of France 1940 campaign idea is bad. Lets see why

The French-British levels would be really fun and unique. But the axis ones will be the same as Moscow axis.
We would have
PZII, PZIIIs, PZIV, PZ38t. K98k, MP38/40, MG13, MG34, JU87, Bf109. Aka we will have everything we have in Moscow.

Another issue is that the maps will not differ too much from most Normandy maps. Which in my opinion will be really boring. Youll have the same atmosphere, buildings. It will feel like Normandy but with early war gear, similar maps.

Thats why we will see EVEN more population issues after 5th campaign, but we will have another meme. We already have axis tunisia, and then we will have axis france. NO ONE will want to unlock the same stuff again. Thats why tunisia axis is dead.

Looking back of our 4 campaign they all have something unique in maps and weaponry.

Normandy - A campaign that has late war equipment, you fight in rural French towns, and beaches.

Moscow - A campaign that has early war equipment, you fight in rural Russian villages, a Town in winter or spring.

Berlin - A campaign that has the latest war equipment, you fight in a destroyed city, and its outskirts.

Tunisia - A campaign that has intermediate war equipment, you fight in desert villages.

They all have something unique in equipment, maps, setting. France will feel the same which will be boring.

A few actual suggestions of a campaign that will not feel recycled in maps and equipment:
Battle of Okinawa - Japan vs US

Battle of Iwo Jima - Japan vs US

Battle of Shanghai - Japan vs Nationalist China (I see equipment issues in this one but it will be undoubtedly fun)

Papuan campaign - Australia vs Japan

**Liberation of the Philippines - Japan vs US **

Winter war or Continuation war - Finland vs USSR

Each of these suggestions will have something new, a fresh feel. Europe in my opinion is mostly covered. Apart from Finland.

A pacific campaign will offer so many unique maps and equipment.

Okinawa - A destroyed landscape with plenty of bunkers, jungle warfare, caves, and even underground strongholds! With late war Japanese and US equipment will be at an imbalance, but we could introduce some perks to the Japanese, like traps, melee, new buildings and so on

Iwo Jima - A small island with beaches that are covered in Vulcanic ash, a big airfield, a mountain with plenty of bunkers to take, underground tunnels.

Battle of Shanghai - A completely destroyed city, where we will see brutal close range action with bolt actions and crappy SMGs.

Papuan campaign - Jungle warfare, small villages, early war equipment (I want that Owen gun)

Liberation of the Philippines - Late war equipment, Jungles, caves, and a massive urban battle (Manilla)

Winter war or Continuation war - Early war equipment, unique mechanics like ski warfare, maps will mostly be in a winter setting, with trenches and bunkers of the Mannerheim line, Dense forests.

All of these offer something new. France will feel the same.
I know that DF are already working on a new campaign, and will share news soon, so they wont be able to switch gears fast.

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Bro, how can you argue against France while arguing for Finland?France will have way more variety in both guns looks and mapsfins are like USSR vs USSR with some German gear plus Suomi, France is an entire new Nation with unique equipment, btw Battle of Greece would also be a nice camapgaign Greeks vs Italians really early war gear and mountain maps

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Not necessarily, in fact I’d love a Maginot Line assault or a dunquerque style map, or an ardennes breaktrough

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No dude. Finland would be way different than france. USSR will be similar but could also have new things. Importantly the maps will be completely new, you will have new mechanics like Skis in the game. France will have the same map feel as normandy and that is just how it is.

I bet people will want to play germany in Battle of france huh? unlock the same things? Sounds like fun.

With Finland at least well get new maps, and mechanics. With france we will get a new nation that everyone will play and stomp the other recycled one

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No, Normandy and the front were the French fought was different including the majinot line, I have no faith in skis in Enlisted And the guns and vehicles are copy pasta for both and not just German copy pasta but Soviet copy pasta, the only French thing we have seen is MAS-36 and one prem LMG

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Yea and the maps will have the same art style, feel to them. You will still fight in Towns, and villages, Dunkirk would be the only unique one somewhat. But making a new campaign just to fight in dunkirk - no. If you want to play Le Bre and Omer a lot of times again then yes France will be good for you

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Tell me different, and they barely even toughed the maginot line. You cant argue with this. Axis tree will be recycled, no one will play it, and allies will stomp like in tunisia

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The do people want to play Germany again is a none argument same applies for the USSR not to mention that the only none USSR gear the fins will have is German something people who have played axis already have played all the fins have is a ppsh like gun the Suomi, you finding the winter war compelling doesn’t make up for unique or fresh gameplay, if you want axis to be unique pacific and Italians are were you gotta go, not Finland

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The best thing they could do in the future is to split each faction into their own trees and to choose which campaign to play as I don’t see another solution to these problems … :face_with_monocle:
But i don’t know what happens when you choose USSR to play in Normandy maybe it should be prohibited to do so :smiley:

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The French actually fought in the low countries and like it or not the Maginot line saw fighting Finalnd winter war comes off more like Moscow, but in any case even if Normandy makes having seen all of French then same goes for Moscow/Finland

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It would be awful that’s what custom games are for

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Fine then, if you think that the Winter war wouldnt be fresh, and france would be i cant stop you. The maps will be completely different, finnish gear would be different M/28 rifles, Suomi SMGs. But ok i only put winter war in there because i knew people would have brought it up.

Now ignore Winter war and tell me that france is a better option than the pacific.

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Then as UsMatelisLT said you need play with reciled weapons always when new campaign hits

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.>Finnish rifles
You mean mosins?
And Suomi is one gunwhich we will probably get anyway, as for vehicles same things, France has a varierty or rifles mgs and unique tanks, as I said before winter war is USSR vs USSR (plus some German gear we used already)
In France I can see more early/experimental and captured gear used by the Germans to add something new for em like polish gear, anyway, next campaing has to be pacific to make axis not copy pasta at all

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I would play Axis a 5th Time to max. Lvl. Got no Problem, all i need is MP40 a Mauser C96 and some Kar98, lets kick some Alllies Asses…

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Tell me you didnt read my comment without telling me you did.

Germany will be the same if France

and now back to my question to you.

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Lol I didn’t say the Pacific is bad I said that France is good and Winter war is bad and that I am on board with Pacific being the next campaing

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I still think it would be better to split campaigns and factions to two diffrent sections bacause in long term we will play only with recycled things in future campaigns (and may forbid some factions to be where they weren’t, for example: USSR only in easter front and USA only in western front)

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I would too. If the maps would at least be different, or have a different feel to them. In france they will can just reuse assets from Normandy meaning it will feel very similar. And since france surrendered quickly they didint fight in very interesting places like Marselie, Paris. Dunkirk tough i see as interesting

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How can you say that winter war is bad and france is good? :smiley:

Winter war USSR - the same

France - germany the same.

Only difference is winter war will actually have fresh maps, and new mechanics

Pacific is still the best option for our next campaign