B5N2 and BAR 1918 BR change

Japan:

  • B5N2, slow and only has a rear gunner and bombs, It’s only redeeming quality is faster turn time which doesn’t make up for the rest of its stats. from BR III to BR II.

Allies:

  • BAR 1918, overshadowed by the other BARs and BR III is over cluttered by numerous of the same weapon with different variants on BR III even if it has a slight nerf to bring it in line with BR II. Does not perform much better if any to the ZB vz. 26 which is now BR II. From BR III to BR II.
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BAR 1918 has way better sights, smaller mov speed penalty, faster reload, less of visual recoil, much faster ADS, and weight less (so sprint for way longer with -25% sprint penalty)


BAR:
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ZB:

So no thanks unless Germany will get something better for BR2. We already have the weakest smgs at BR2 and now you want to bully us even more…

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Then why not make Japan type 96 also BR II ?

After they added KE7 they should’ve lowered it’s BR but i guess DF just adds stuff and don’t care how it would work with old guns and balancing. And Type 100 MG is so inaccurate that it could may as well be a BR3 weapon.

cuz type 96 is now rarely used and in BR 2 is not better weapon then ZB but it have a bit more bullets

And I don’t know why they didn’t added KE7 with 50 rounds the 25 rounds simply makes no change its not bad to have it but 50 round will fit better

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As said above if the BAR was lowered to BR II:

I’m not apposed to more equipment for any faction, infact I encourage it. Mostly in Germany’s case I’d folder those new items in because they have mostly run out of space except for BR V and some of the mid rifle tier areas.

The game as a whole could honestly do with some tidying up in the various nations TT to fix the locations of other items and to declutter all the items scattered about in my opinion.

The type 96 would also benefit from BR II.

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Why not both mag sizes for the KE7? Japan still needs lots of equipment and this would fit well with a Type 92 with a 47 round pan.

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The BAR M1918 is in BR3 because of its negligent movement penalty. If they want to move it to BR2, they’ll have to give it -50% sprint speed.

Thats fine Japan needs a lot and BAR btw if you have the paratrooper squad with US they have BAR at BR II :smiley:

I’ve been beating this drum for quite some time. Their is no reason the bottom of the line BAR should not be level 2 as it is completely worthless at level 3 with the A1 and A2 BAR models. The Germans have a distinct advantage as both the Mod30 and MG13 are better then anything the Allies have at level 2. The BAR, Mod30 and MG13 all have decent gun sites, which is not found in any other level 2 Allied Machine gun. MG13 and BAR are in my opinion a good match, comparable ROF, however the BAR still has the smaller mag size but also weighs less.

I like the MG13 so much that I will often run 3 machine gun squads, plus my APC and along with the other squads field about 12 or 13 MG13’s. Sure, they weigh a bit more but kill faster then the SMG’s.

It needs ADS nerf first though, if that happens I’m fine with it. Currently it’s way too run n gun for BR2, it would just bully BR1 players.

I think the Level 3 FN1930 that you can get in the BP for both Germany and Japan should be level 2 IMOP. I don’t play Japan…at all…so I am no expert as to where they are weak and where they are strong, but if they are weak at level 2 machine gun then let them have the FN1930 BP gun at level 2. Since it’s a BP gun they can only have 4 anyway.

Well the FN is BR III weapon for sure the rest of the BARs without the FN and the Colt monitor can go to BR II but those 2 are just really better so im not sure about this but the first BAR to go to BR II i think will be fine. There is also W.A.R and the Polish one i dont know how good they are maybe its safe just to put the first BAR to BR 2 since the paratroopers have it it wont be OP but we can put also type 96 to BR II

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Well move it into BR1 then - its anyways strange that there aren’t BR1 MGs

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I have the WAR. On paper I think maybe it has the least recoil of them all, but I still prefer the BAR A2 over the WAR. The WAR is not a BAR, but for the most part, it is :blush:. I would be perfectly fine if they moved the WAR to level 2, however it is much better then the base BAR1918. The BAR, the WAR and the German /Japanese FN1930 seem to be pretty close.

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WAR


FN 1930

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Well maybe they can move them to BR II and Type 96 also

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I don’t know much about the Japanese weapons in the game, but I wouldn’t be opposed to moving the Type 96 to level 2. I do own a WW2 type 99 rifle that my boss gave me years ago. It was beat up a little as it had seen some combat, but I have no idea what battles it had been through. I had to give it to my son since I could not bring it to the Philippines with me when I moved.

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With BAR in BR 2 and Type 96 in BR II many people will play BR I and II cuz you have the US iconic setup and Japan iconic setup early war

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M1918 while has bad vertical recoil however it’s still leagues above all BR2 LMGs it’s also pretty light so you could sprint for longer.

War has super low recoil and dispersion but awful visual recoil and recoil direction. It has the best ADS speed, it’s obvious what was devs intention with that gun, they want you to get super close to not be bothered by excessive recoil, it even has only -20% mov penalty, they should tone down that visual recoil by a bit.

FN Model 1930 is just awful, not only it has bad recoil with average dispersion but also very high visual recoil, under average ADS speed, same mov penalty as the rest of the bars and too high of the rof on top of bad uncontrollable recoil it should get some strong buffs, it also weight a lot.

Colt Monitor is a M1918A2 but worse, however it’s paper weight.

Wz 1928 is just average, but weights a lot (10kg)

B5N2 definitely need a change in br i agree

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