Like the Kalashnikov one?
Also those Hungarian ones where WW2 surplus.
As I said the guy made a good demonstration of the ppsh, but I would take his opinions of the mo 40 with a grain of salt. Because yes he is Russian. Also good luck finding that weapon out side of the eastern block and assia.
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That is indeed accurate, the 7.62x25 TT is better at accuracy over range and penetration power than the contemporary 9mm Parabellum, but 9mm tends to cause more damage on impact.
As said before the conclusion is, but you ainât gonna fake accuracy and penetration on a vid, the claim to counter was that no ppsh us accurate over range, which was problem to be a myth. That is all
Thats indeed a rather good source, its unbiased in sameway as moscow campaign is balanced.
And has entirely new upper receiver, the exact part that caused half of the issues with ppsh.
Personally did enjoy the part of how Mp40 handle caused accidental discharges.
But conveniently forgot to mention there was rather massive issue on PPSh, if dropped / hit hard surface there was rather massive chance of âaccidental dischargeâ
No you just dont take a gun made -41 / - 45
Theres quite a differency between quality of 41 - 45 and after it.
True, but you can buy 50usd / ea .338 super magnum extrakillermuderslayer sniper devastator 9000 cartridges, which as the name says are super accurated rounds.
But if you shoot them thru the waterpipe its most likely not very accurated.
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Its also funny that the Soviets copied more from the MP40 than the Germans from the PPSh.
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wierd everyone worth their salt can fire the dam thing very accurately, so that doesnt help your point, even 1944 ppsh-41s are quite accurate, so no the sights worked well and the weapon is accurate.
What part of this you didnât understand? The PPShâs in the videos have new upper receivers.
Restored guns especially.
The spacing in PPSh wasnât tight = it rattled = it wasnât very accurate
The original 1944 one. Stop trying to say that, WW2 ones are very accurate, and no not everyone got a new receiver, not even sure the Hungarian ones where modified at all.
âOriginalâ 1944 or 1941?
And WW2 ones werenât very accurate. You saying that it is doesnât make it so.
This
Uhm no.
With similar chance as winning lottery, yes its possible.
Well if it ever was used it did get new receiver.
Most likely they did.
Why ? Well first of all, regardless soviets claim the gun was capable to put 30 000 rounds in continuos fire and still remain adequate accuracy ( Which not even moist nugget could do and thats where the barrel of ppsh comes )
Well that aside, perhaps barrel coated with stalinium can withstand 30k continuous fire regardless idk is there even such barrel in present day that could do the same.
But the ârecoil damperâ couldnt, it probably should have been rubber and perhaps some guns had rubber but due to lack of that magical substance, leather and what ever was available was used instead.
This resulted to phenomen of ppsh beating itself to death and id say quite alot less than 10k rounds was more than enough to result in this
phenomen
( Worth to mentioning fact the above mentioned loose tolerances didnt exactly help in this issue, well get to that later )
So as this rather common phenomen happened, your gun got new upper receiver OR it was entirely scrapped and only trigger mechanism was salvaged to next weapon or as spare parts and perhaps bolt if it havent raped itself entirely.
SO you have upper receiver which houses the free floating barrel & sights connected to lower receiver where the suicidal bolt is located.
These 2 are connected to each other with a Pin, and ofc at the end of gun that funny looking cover thing cant really remember how its fastened. Nor care.
The issue of loose parts was rather quickly noticed by sovjets as it caused malfunctions in feeding, accuracy is for homos & criminals so they didnt really care about that.
Murrica, was kind enough to lend soviets precision tools to fix this issue.
The precision tools are called hammer & chisel.
As you can see in the picture how the loose tolerances are easily fixed with precision.
This is quite common for -41 / -42 ppshâs
So, our beloved soviets never really were fond of precision and quality and why should they ? Knowing very well whos going to use them.
They never really managed to fix the magazine issues with drum mags, which really isnt rocket science.
Thru out the war the not so good tolerances were fixed with precision tools, hammer & chisel.
But the same guys that cant fit magazine to gun nor manufacture 2 pieces that fits together without violence, managed to built smg that can withstand 30k continuous fire and while doing so hit at target 300m you say?
Something just doesnt sound right.
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Original production whent from 1941 to 1945, so yes a 1944 year of manufacture is an original Soviet ppsh-41
Last time I checked 95% of the participants didnât won in the lottery.
But sovjets did, 95% of them got into âbetter placeâ if you know what I mean.
Wired to say that of a nation that rejected rifles on the sole bases if accuracy. They didnât focus on it in the same way the US did, but they did care that weapons were effective up to 200-400m in ww2depending on weapon type, that is the whole point of adopting 7.62x39 rounds, to have the fire power of an SMG with the capacity of been effective at medium range. And effectiveness includes accuracy
Fun fact, worn out moist nugget barrels made 2 excellent barrels to ppsh.
Much like theyr troops were effective with 15min training.
Yeah, definitely worth the time & effort make mint weapons for troops whos life expectency is somewhere between 2-5mins on frontline.
Quite sure sks didnt have firepower of smg, since I dont recall other 7.62x39 weapons being in service in said timeline.
Referring to AK ? Yeah, its also well known for various things accuracy just isnt one of them.
You mean the rifle that was developed simultaneously with the AK-47 and itâs other failed prototypes that did filled that role?, The SKS was a stop gap solution and was quickly replaced
It will hit itâs human size target at 300m which was good enough for what it was needed.
Also the inaccurate AKs are for the most part unlicensed copies, like the Chinese ones original Soviet made AKMs where accurate as expected.
That is until modern time where now days Russia fails to even produce decent rifles.
I dont recall any of them being in service.
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Ah the classic, are they using those unlicensed copies in one un named conflict currently going ?
Imagine reading the whole post and realizing I specifically said that post Soviet Russia canât even make decent small arms. Just imagine.
Imagine those very exact soviet era equipment being used as we speak.