today I was thinking about how to make TDs more useful since that is one of the complaints people have about them. That idea is to make the AT gunner squad and only that squad the ability to use TDs and here is how it would work: AT gunner squad will use both the armor spawn and the infantry spawns, if armored spawn is selected and 0-1 armored vehicles are in play then this squad can spawn in with their TD, if not then the typical “2/2” would appear. If the AT squad selected a rally point or the infantry spawn then it would be treated as a normal infantry squad.
Historical: yes this is historical since american tank hunters, AT gunners, would have hunted tanks from a TD only going on foot if their TD was busy or knocked out. with the only Ahistorical part being that all AT squad can do it
Squad comp: I’m not too sure of it myself but I would likely have it to have only 2 AT gunners and maybe special tankers that can only equip starting rifles or carbines like the m1c or the VG1-5 while the AT gunners will largely be unchanged.
Moscow: allies would have the Su-5-1 as their starting TD while the axis would have panzerjager 1*
Berlin: this is simple since we already have TDs that don’t come attached to a squad but this would also hopefully allow SU-100s and jadgpanther to get added
Normandy: now this is where things get a bit tricky since m10 comes attached with a new squad so to replace the m10’s old spot it could be either a 105 sherman or a 76mm sherman. while axis could get the nashorn
Tunisia: the current TD will be moved down to the AT gunner spot with the 3J replacing it, so to replace the 3J it could be the 3L or the 3M while the allies would get the Deacon armored car.
deacon armored car:
*: i’m unsure what shells the panzerjager 1 should get
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Very nice interesting idea. I dunno how other people are, but personally i never used in a single battle the AT gunner squad. It is kinda useless. My only concern is that how will gonna deal with AT weapons.
Since there are no AT gunner II squads, I would be okay as a late unlock for this as AT Squad 2, vs gunner. Then we can have a slot for more dedicated TDs while retaining the original squad for on foot action (which is my favorite way to tank hunt).
the only issue is things like panther, t-50 and jumbo existing which makes new players at least some stop gap before getting better tanks
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Normally I would agree 100%, but there are some problems.
T50, sure, it might help because I find , although its the easiest of the 3 to kill. PaK38 can kill it, and it’s weak in the cheeks, but sure that might fit.
For Jumbo, that’s a hard sell to bring in an effective TD.
StuG III, which is a good TD, can only really hurt it on the turret ring, and MG port, and that takes positioning and a bit of luck and skill.
If you bring in the bigger guns, it would upset what is already a oddly balanced .
And with such an early unlock on the Jumbo its difficult.
Panther , it unlocks late in Normandy, so perhaps the fit would be a AT Gunner II with the Jackson?
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sounds good, but… Su-5-1 while germans get panzerjager I? Su-5-1 barely even moves and doesnt offer much protection either, while panzerjagerI has a good mobility and its turret armour also provider cover from sides!
now, soviets dont get much that would be balanced for both sides, but i guess Su-26 is the best example, its not much diffrent from Su-5-1, but it has somewhat better protection for its crew at least, it also has a diffrent model of the gun, but its same caliber
I use them all the time as they are quite versatile squads. They can have 3 AT gunners and 3 specialists (sniper, engineer, mg gunner). They are probably my favorite squad alround.
KT-28, that would be the similar sized gun you are talking, would be much worse at taking out tanks than the 76mm of the su-5-1
are you sure? it had HEAT shells
no wait, according to wikipedia it had 76 mm regimental gun M1927 monted on it
Yes! also give Germans an 80 flak cannon early in Moscow so we can deal with T-50 and Il2 which can almost climb as good as an fully upgraded fighter BF109 F2 but still tank the regular AA cannon