Assaulters killed Moscow

[CaptainSebekel]

@Barendd1974

if it existed before the end of the battle?

Mkb and F2 existed before end of Moscow, just didn’t saw service so what now?

@Barendd1974

Just because i’m using the Mkb as an example, does not mean the standard should only apply to Germans

Your standard sucks because it only applies to one direction which is not enough to complain about historical accuracy and we are not talking about gold orders (only).

@Barendd1974

Germans

You mentioned Germans guns and only one Red Army rifle and ironically it would fit according to historical accuracy because as long as it “existed” its enough.

@Barendd1974

. This isn’t a “Axis OP!”

The Mkb is not even OP. The MP38 has better accuracy, not to mention that the Mkb is worse than the Fed.

@Barendd1974

over-implementation of automatic weapons and over-inclusion within a battle set primarily in 1941.

Then it does make even less sense to come with historical accuracy since at least the Soviets actually employed entire SMG platoons.

[CaptainSebekel]

Not to mention that removing the MKb and the Avtom wouldnt solve the cause that makes people spam SMGs/ autos. We can introduce restrictions and so but the devs dislike this and wouldnt solve the cause.

[Barendd1974]

@CaptainSebekel

Mkb and F2 existed before end of Moscow, just didn’t saw service so what now?

So it would qualify as a premium or gold order then. Like I said beforehand with weapons that aren’t in service in any capacity up until the end.

@CaptainSebekel

Your standard sucks because it only applies to one direction which is not enough to complain about historical accuracy and we are not talking about gold orders (only).

What “one direction”? And yea, I know i’m not talking solely of gold orders. I was talking about in game mechanics as well regarding having these weapons cost more reinforcements since they are generally better and more deadly.

@CaptainSebekel

You mentioned Germans guns and only one Red Army rifle and ironically it would fit according to historical accuracy because as long as it “existed” its enough.

I still believe the Federov should have been under gold order too. You keep trying to find a double standard that doesn’t exist.

@CaptainSebekel

The Mkb is not even OP. The MP38 has better accuracy, not to mention that the Mkb is worse than the Fed.

Ok?

@CaptainSebekel

Then it does make even less sense to come with historical accuracy since at least the Soviets actually employed entire SMG platoons.

Yea, but this is supposed to be a balance of realistic historical battles and arcade gameplay. I also never argued to remove the PPsh or any of the PPDs, nor have I argued to remove any of the MPs.

@CaptainSebekel

Not to mention that removing the MKb and the Avtom wouldnt solve the cause that makes people spam SMGs/ autos. We can introduce restrictions and so but the devs dislike this and wouldnt solve the cause.

I never said removing either would solve the spam. That’s why I suggested using gameplay mechanics to fix that. Have these better guns (would probably be better to be tied to weapon class and not progression level) cost more reinforcements. It would allow a layer of strategy where you can’t just have a min/max setup to have a crutch on without actually being good at the game. This will actually allow for a diverse setup of weapons instead of just whatever is best or is the meta of the current update.