Asking for MP35/I to be downtiered to BR II

[Dregomz]

Lanchester 50 has superior stats over Lanchester while Mp35 is just a worse MP40. .30 tommy got power creeped by 30 round tommies of BR2-3.

[Spiderkingthe10-live]

@Dregomz

Lanchester 50

It’s honestly in my opinion the best br3 smg and is very good above in br4 and 5

[sku111]

Both variants of the lanchester are amazing smgs. I would use thompsons and grease guns more, but the 265m/s velocity just kills them.

[Darenius1]

@LokalHero

The recent changes to BR weapons especially Germany make for some excellent BRII smgs. On par with the soviets to be fair.

The only good smg germany BR 2 got was the soumi but everything else was just a sidegrade to the mp 40. So if the only way to compete with pre existing smgs is a weapon from one of the earliest BP seasons. Something is just wrong. But meanwhile the Uragan and thompsen was added to just powercreep everything the axis got even including the new additions.

[GeneralBrus]

@Dregomz

Mp35 is just a worse MP40

the extra fire rate is noticeable - MP40 is pure dog shit, MP35 is just bad instead

[Luvs2spooge]

@Dregomz

Not a single German BR2 TT weapon can be compared to the PPS-42/43 and Uragan

If they buffed the FNAB too 600 base it would equal the PPS-42 IMOP, the PPS-43 from what I see when I search is over buffed, and the Uragan probably should probably be level three, but I don’t use it in level two as I prefer the PPS-42 to the other two. Buff the FNAB and I will be happy.

[robihr]

@LokalHero

The recent changes to BR weapons especially Germany make for some excellent BRII smgs. On par with the soviets to be fair.

did i miss an update? AFAIK there is nothing on par with pps42, pps43 and uragan. they are all compromises one either mag size or ROF. damage buff on short range is only applicable for people with vitality, but people on BR2 are either complete newbies with no vitality, or veterans who usually have armor with vitality. in both of those cases soviet SMG have overwhelming advantage.

but to be on topic… i think that there are too many good SMG on BR2 and that BR1 and BR2 should be domain of shit SMG. soviet SMG should get +1 BR and they should introduce some shittier SMG or they should nerf existing ones cause they are too good for BR2. germans already have too much SMG on BR2 and shitty ones should stay there, while some decent ones should also go +1 BR with some buffs.

[GetOut0fMyWay]

@LokalHero

The recent changes to BR weapons especially Germany make for some excellent BRII smgs. On par with the soviets to be fair.

Sorry to ask this, BUT: are you playing your own game? Only SMG on german side which was moved to BR II is Beretta M38/42 which is not really better then Beretta M1

Show me a german SMG which is as good as PPS-43 and Uragan - you won’t find any.

@LokalHero

How far do you want to go…?

How far? Maybe buff the ROF of the Beretta M38/42 to it’s real ROF and same of the FNAB-43.
You buffed AT-44 ROF from 550 to 690 because in real life it has that ROF but you guys completely ignore the facts of the ROF for the Beretta M38/42 and FNAB-43 for years - buff the ROF of these 2 and problem is solved.

[GetOut0fMyWay]

@sku111

I am once again asking for the MP35/I to be downtiered to BR II. The Americans have the M1A1 Thompson already in BR II, which is yards ahead of the MP35 and any other BR II smg for that matter. The Soviets have the PPS-43 and newly added Uragan, which easily out does most BR III german SMGs.

NO! Keep in on BR III but buff it instead.
German TechTree has SMGs which could be a good PPS-43 / Uragan / M1A1 counter, if Darkflow wouldn’t ignore facts for years (talking about the real ROF of the Beretta M38/42 and FNAB-43).
On the other hand, Darkflow argues that they increased the ROF of the AT-44 because “it had in real life these ROF”

[sku111]

I thought the AT-44 was a one off for starters anyway. I was only suggesting downtiering the MP35 because I thought it would be easier than buffing it, but $200 says they’ll nerf it to oblivion instead.

[GetOut0fMyWay]

@Dregomz

I’m still waiting for M38/42 + Fnab rof increase and also addition of new seventh iteration of mp40 with much faster rof.

Very important to buff AT-44 rate of fire ASAP because somebody reported it early in the past but on the other hand they ignore the facts for Beretta M38/42 and FNAB-43 for years. Nice double standards from DF
I am pretty sure both weapons would receive a buff it they would be russian / american weapon

[TUSUPOLISI69]

@GetOut0fMyWay

Nice double standards from DF

Thats little bit far-fetched, its just unfortunate coincidence that they did remember to fix mp38’s 0.18 dispersion and accidentally forgot to fix ppsh stick.

[GetOut0fMyWay]

@TUSUPOLISI69

Thats little bit far-fetched

No, it isn’t. Give me one valid reason why Darkflow has ignored it for the Beretta M38/42 and the FNAB-43 !!! FOR YEARS !!! but buffed the AT-44’s ROF promptly after players reported the incorrect ROF? Look how long Beretta M38/42 and FNAB-43 are in the game and how long the reports according to the incorrect ROF exist (more then 3 years) and look how long the AT-44 is in the game (20th decembre 2023). A saw a report of the incorrect ROF of the AT-44 this year (guess february but I am not sure) and changes were made in april (= 2 months later).

They can’t just say “dear community, we’ve received reports of the wrong ROF on the AT-44 in the recent past and are buffing it to the real ROF” but on the other hand they ignore it for the Beretta M38/42 and FNAB-43

[Darenius1]

@TUSUPOLISI69

that they did remember to fix mp38’s 0.18

I mean that is 0.03 better than the ppsh so clearly it overperforms.

[GetOut0fMyWay]

@sku111

I thought the AT-44 was a one off for starters anyway

was available during event in decembre 2023

[Darenius1]

@TUSUPOLISI69

Thats little bit far-fetched, its just unfortunate coincidence that they did remember to fix mp38’s 0.18 dispersion and accidentally forgot to fix ppsh stick

So then how is it that FW 190 cant fly straigth for years to this day but the USSR jet needs and can be fixed in a week or two?

The way DF does those kinds of bug fixes (or not) is awfully suspicious.

[TUSUPOLISI69]

@Darenius1

I mean that is 0.03 better than the ppsh so clearly it overperforms.

exactly ???

@Darenius1

So then how is it that FW 190 cant fly straigth for years to this day but the USSR jet needs and can be fixed in a week or two?

The way DF does those kinds of bug fixes (or not) is awfully suspicious.

My sophisticated guess would be that devs are sovjet ruski speaking so clearly it is much harder to repair german equipment due to foreign language.

@Darenius1

FW 190

rumour says they are still trying to find the correct alphabets from keyboard for FW190

[GetOut0fMyWay]

@TUSUPOLISI69

My sophisticated guess would be that devs are sovjet ruski speaking so clearly it is much harder to repair german equipment due to foreign language.

Darkflow also has people who are fluent in german and english and can therefore translate.
It would be rather embarrassing if Darkflow couldn’t do this because of this.
And DEVs in particular should be fluent in English

[sku111]

Darkflow is Latvian, which borders with Belarus and Russia, hence the Soviet bias.

[Darenius1]

@GetOut0fMyWay

Darkflow also has people who are fluent in german and english and can therefore translate.
It would be rather embarrassing if Darkflow couldn’t do this because of this.

Given how terrible the translation mistakes for the german localisation can be I would not be suprised if google translate did a lot of the work in the past. But then again it might just be devs not giving a crap like when they accidently changed the SBD dauntless into the D3A1 for both pacific and tunisia.