I am once again asking for the MP35/I to be downtiered to BR II. The Americans have the M1A1 Thompson already in BR II, which is yards ahead of the MP35 and any other BR II smg for that matter. The Soviets have the PPS-43 and newly added Uragan, which easily out does most BR III german SMGs.
MP35/I Statistics
M1A1 Thompson Statistics
The MP35/I is marginally better than the M1A1 Thompson. However, it has no place in BR III, especially when compared to PPSHs which basically double rpm and have close hit power (within 0.5). Higher muzzle velocity and slightly better recoil don’t really constitute a BR III weapon.
Possibly. Although it may be too much for BR I. It has nicer recoil impulse than the MP35/I, and the only thing it lacks is damage, although 6.8 upgraded still puts it above the Lanchester.
This goes for any faction: the tech tree needs more folders. That clears up the 20+ researches.
Ideally, the PPSH 35 round mag should be BR IV and the drum mags should be BR V. With Japan, it would be a bit more balanced, however, against Germany, the power discrepancy is way too large. Either uptier some Soviet weapons (never gonna happen) or buff German SMGs (also never gonna happen).
I’ve also been asking for DF to move the MP35 down to level two, but I would also keep the existing level two MP35 at level two as basically other then the barrel length, they are identical. I don’t use the MP35 at level three, but I do use the only two MP35’s I have at level two, and would use the other MP35’s as well if DF moved them down.
I’m also going to to another occasion to ask that DF do the correct thing and increase the FNAB43 to it’s correct ROF of at least 600. This would be correct and match it perfectly with the PPS42.
I doubt that DF will even read this thread, and since I am batting zero in requests I know this entire thread is now DOA. However, the more we ask, the more people agree then maybe, just maybe someday before I die DF will do something about it. Not holding my breath since that would bring death much faster.
Me personally, other then dropping the level three MP35 to level two and increasing the rate of fire of the FNAB43, I am satisfied with what DF has done in the SMG department. However, I would still like to see at least the base BAR 1918 dropped to level two since the Allies are weak in the MG department at that level, and their currently is no US level two MG.
I don’t deny that the Beretta M1 is a great SMG (for BR II), but the MP35/I is closer to BR II in stats than BR III, hence why I was suggesting downtiering it. Other option is to buff it to around 600rpm and reduce recoil a little to put it more on par with at least the PPS-42.
Not a single German BR2 TT weapon can be compared to the PPS-42/43 and Uragan. German downtiers barely changed anything as MP40 is still better than any other option due dmg per bullet, shame that it’s still inferior to the soviet smgs due ultra slow rof.
I’m still waiting for M38/42 + Fnab rof increase and also addition of new seventh iteration of mp40 with much faster rof.
What german smg was changed down to BR2? And it’s almost like you added a mix of 3 of the best smgs in the game into one ON TOP of the two they already had.
No wonder there are people asking for german smgs to be lowered.
COUGH COUGH URAGAN
Oh… the battlepass weapons that were also removed? You have got to be kidding yourself.
MP35/l belongs at BR2 as we already have event MP35 and it’s mediocre and actually not worth using as it trades accuracy + dmg + reload speed for just a bit of rof. Put MP35/l at BR2 and buff event MP35 as it’s just a meme weapon with inferior stats.
And M38/42 too. They forwarded it but devs are not really keen on buffing Germany with even most basic changes despite having proof in Italian provided by me.
FNAB-43 had other variant without delayed recoil with minimum rof of 550 rpm
I simply wish to know is suomi a tt smg? How many player, including veterans, have more than one copy of the bp suomi?
Or are you referring to m38/42? Do you even bother to check patchnotes before writing these disingenuous comments?
He is shilling for dev short-sighted balance decisions without even playing Germany post patch. Nothing have changed except they are weaker than ever due competition getting new smgs and rifles. We are talking about TT weapons not gold/event/premium weapons, if you include them then with Suomi and MP719(r) Germany is still playable but how many people own them all? Not that many and VMP is still at BR3 for no damn reason. No 4 more rounds are not worth having much worse recoil.
Actually, I think event weapons should be included in balance discussion. Like it will be stupid to leave out tommy .30 and lanchester 50 when discussing U.S. br3. The core issue is the availability of these event weapons. Suomi and mp35 are good br 2 weapons. German br2 won’t look so bad if the devs are giving out mp35 and suomi as generously as tommy .30 and lanchester 50.
However, the more we ask, the more people agree then maybe, just maybe someday before I die DF will do something about it. Not holding my breath since that would bring death much faster. 
